AIBU in thinking that all readers (and writers) of the Daily Mail should be put to death?

[TiggyD]

Well?

Right-wing, over-reacting, paparazzi funding, health scare loving, minority hating sub-literature for busy bodies, racists and little Englanders who live in the past?

You can assume that the people in the BNP who can read both buy the Daily Mail.

Be nice; you just know that somebody at the Mail will read this

Fanks for the arm, policy.

I'm not sure that the Daily Mail readers should be put to death though. Seems a bit extreme. I'd vote for torturing them just a little bit and then releasing them into the community. Whereupon they can be lovingly and hand-wringingly cared for by guardian readers

amber1979, they're nearly always communists. Pol Pot was, Mao was, Stalin was. Even Hitler was a socialist.

Don't you think that Exxon and BP and Shell, with turnovers larger than many countries, have the resources to counter movements like Greenpeace and the Greens?
It's not about insulating lofts. That's the sales pitch.

Is your surname McCarthy by any chance?

probonbon, yes they have a dig at him to show him up. They know what his game is.

Global warming leads them to other associated policies that concern our health, such as the constant push to cut back on eating meat, as pushed by Dr Rajendra Pachauri, himself.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1053270/Everyone-meat-free-day-week-tackle-climate-change-says-UN.h tml

there are many other consequences.
That's why I am saying don't dismiss the Mail. The Mail will not spell it out for you, but it shows you glimpses that can be useful for you if you are interested in your health.

Oh dear you mentioned Hitler... Godwins Law applies. Tut.

Claig - who is 'they'? Sometimes it seems to be communists, sometimes it's global capital - or do you see them as the same thing? What do 'they' get out of limiting growth/populations? What rights do they want to remove?

Thanks for tipping us off about the conspiracy, claig.

I'd suggest you take very great care of yourself though. It's easy to trace posters back, and the forces of global geopolitics have significant and unprincipled resources.

Look at Princess Diana. They silenced her, didn't they?

no McCarthy didn't understand that the communists work for the powerful, they are only their servants.

ooojimaflip, it's global capital.

Can't remember what Godwin's Law is.

Godwin's Law is once someone invokes that Nazi's all reaonable debate is impossible.

Claig - so what does Global Capital get out of limiting growth/populations? Your analysis seems to indicate that they already control everything, and by definition they have all the money, so what do they actually want to do?

I like the idea of Stalin and Lenin and Marx being the cat's paw of the forces of global capitalism.

I'm sure there's a thesis in that idea.

have you seen the DM-0-matic headline generator?

No need to ever read the DM again (if there was one in the first place)

I think you are B a bit U to suggest death penalty tbh, cutting their pensions and tax breaks should do it (fair enough considering they can't stand the misuse of Taxpayers Money to feed starving children etc)

www.qwghlm.co.uk/toys/dailymail/

I just got IS THE HUMAN RIGHTS ACT CHEATING YOUR PETS?

ooojimaflip, I think global capital controls a hell of a lot and has its levers on power and controls many politicians etc. But it doesn't control 6 billion people or whatever we are at now. It uses its proxies such as communist dictatorships etc. to control those, but I don't think it is an altogether easy process. As in any kingdom the ruler has to rule with some sort of consent of the people otherwise the ruler cannot maintain control. The clever way is to make the people willingly carry out the ruler's plans rather than openly forcing them to do so. Convincing people that we are all doomed and the world will end is one way to get people to go along. We have had lots of these millenial doom predictions, the Y2K bug, bird flu, swine flu, global warming etc.
They have all the money, they don't need anymore of it.

That link is fantastic!

IS FACEBOOK GIVING HARD-WORKING FAMILIES SWINE FLU?

ARE PAEDOPHILES TAXING YOUR PETS?

ARE ASYLUM SEEKERS GIVING CLIFF RICHARD CANCER?

almost wetting myself here...

HAS FILTH ON TELEVISION DESTROYED PROPERTY PRICES?

@amber- the only thing they seemed to have missed is the bins-with-spy-chips obsession, but you could replace any of the above nouns with 'BIN CHIPS' and it would work

have you also seen the Oncology project- dailymailoncology.tumblr.com/, 'An ongoing quest to track the Daily Mail's classification of inanimate objects into two types: those that cause cancer, and those that cure it.'

My mum loves the Daily Mail anti-cancer tips and tends to live by them until the next contradictory one comes out....

Claig - so what are they using this power to do? Why do they want to impoverish us? What's in it for them?

ooojimaflip
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7093099.stm

Claig - "the Guardianistas want to make it the norm that anybody quoting the Mail has to apologise for it. This is an insidious from of control so that reading the Mail becomes almost taboo, and others are influenced not to trust the Mail."

Well it's clearly not bloody working when you look at the circualtion figures.

Claig - OK - so your contention is that Global Warming is a ploy to allow population control to be instigated - why does Global Capital want to reduce the popualation?

ooojimaflip it can never work because in a fair and open debate the majority of the people will always back the Mail rather than the Guardian. The Mail is more influential than the Telegraph or the Sun and that is why it is the target of so much abuse.

read what the MEP says, he is only His Master's Voice. It's to do with consuming the resources, the whole green thing about cutting down. They think they own all the resources and they don't want to share the resources with a bunch of oiks.

Lord Melchett was the ex-head of Greenpeace. Eton educated Porritt set the next ball rolling when he broached the subject of 2 children families
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7884138.stm
Eton educated Zac Goldsmith tells us to reduce our carbon footprint.

Soon they'll tell us that breathing harms the planet because we are exhaling carbon dioxide. Sounds like one of those made up Daily Mail headlines, but the way it is going it may not be so far-fetched.

Claig - so, Global Capital believes that we are resource limited and is using Global Warming as a proxy for reducing consumption, ultimatly by reducing the worlds population.

If we ARE resource limited does reducing consumption, ultimately by reducing population not seem like a reasonable strategy? Why would they use Global Warming as a proxy instead of their real agenda of consumption limitation?

even the resource limitation is up for debate, there are many theories that peak oil is rubbish. But forget that. Would you volunteer your family for reduction, where does it go next? What if they decide that the reduction is not fast enough and should possibly be speeded up?

Consumption limitation will lead to impoverishment, falling trade etc. back to good old communism, back to rationing. Will the people put up with this? They're not sure, it is safer to have them do their own cheerleading as they voluntarily reduce their standard of living in the belief that they are preventing the destruction of the planet. They know that Guardian readers will swallow this, but they know that Mail readers are not going to swallow this. Look at the difference in the comment section of the BBC's article about Porritt's family reduction discussion and the Mail's equivalent article. Many BBC readers are willing to do it, they think it is a good idea. It is different with the Mail readers

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1133316/Call-child-limit-families-Governments-leading-green-adviser .html

In the Mail article it also tells us something that the BBC didn't mention

"The row came as the Roman Catholic Church, which views contraception as ?intrinsically evil?, compared environmentalism to Marxism.
A booklet by the London-based Catholic Truth Society, a charity under the patronage of Peter Smith, the Archbishop of Cardiff, said environmental lobby tended to exaggerate the threat to vindicate its calls for radical Government measures.
The book, Global Warming: How Should We Respond?, says: ?Just as Marxism advocated communism as the only solution to the world?s ills, so Greens warn us of major catastrophe if we do not adopt their calls for radical change.?
It says the ideology of the Green movement runs counter to Christian beliefs, because it sees ?mankind as just one species among many?.
The book says that population programmes targeting the 'supposedly feckless breeding' of the poor, especially in developing countries, were the result of racist and unfounded prejudices.
'Environmental campaigns which demand that that the natural world should be treated with greater respect imply that this is the only issue that matters, ignoring the plight of humanity or any spiritual values,' it said."

It looks like the Church will join the Mail in not lying down. It's not going to be easy for global capital. It will have a fight on its hands. Global capital can rely on its usual allies, the marxists and greens, and it is seeking to pull in as many young people as it can in the mistaken belief that they are fighting the big bad capitalist wolf, when all along they are helping all of the corporate and political forces on the planet.

They are peddling the same old Malthusian doctrines that we are all doomed and the way out of it is for us to exit the planet. I doubt they'll be reducing their families but they will be expecting us to reduce ours.