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to tell DD he's not the Messiah he's a very naughty boy?

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bobdog · 22/03/2010 15:22

DD, nearly 5, has come home with a muddled story of Jesus on a cross thing for Easter. The school seem to present this along with the alphabet as a FACT.

AIBU to muddle her up with Monty Python quotes and send her back to school singing 'always look on the bright side of life'

(No offence intended to those that choose to believe in any Religon or to the Bible as a collection of stories and parables)

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Lac365 · 22/03/2010 15:33

Good for you. I'll be doing the same.
Already been in trouble for not having her Christened.

Excuse me for not being up to date but what exactly does DD stand for?

PeggysEvilTwin · 22/03/2010 15:34

I was slightly shocked when ds came home from nursery talking about praying and bits from the bible. We are not a religious family, in the slightest. I have no objection to children being taught about religion and I know that Christianity is taught in our schools, but it just seemed so strange to hear., because we would not talk about things like that at home.

skihorse · 22/03/2010 15:41

YABU for knowing all the quotes & words to songs.

BitOfFun · 22/03/2010 15:46

Well if he goes in quoting Monty Python, the teachers will know you are taking the piss. Better to explain to him that it's all just a story that you don't actually believe, if you don't want him to get religion. Kids that age tend to think the teachers are the oracle though, so good luck with that one!

ooojimaflip · 22/03/2010 15:47

I don't think knowing that quote is all that bad - now if you could recite the whole "what have the romans ever done for us" sketch THAT would be bad.

nannynobnobs · 22/03/2010 15:50

I've told DD1 that it's a story and some people believe it's true, and it's up to her whether she does or not- and that I don't believe it's true. Can't say fairer than that imo. She loves Monty Python

Hassled · 22/03/2010 15:56

I don't think I'd use the word "story" - that sort of belittles the faith in my mind. I've always just kept to the "some people believe this is true but I don't" line.

DS2 though is much less tolerant - he has long been of the view that anyone of any faith whatsoever is an idiot, and takes great exception to hymns like "All things bright and beautiful" - the Lord God did not make them all, they evolved over thousands of years, etc .

bobdog · 22/03/2010 16:07

I do have far too much brain space taken up with Monty Python, hitchhikers et al, have always found it to be a strong asset in the boy world of engineering, great to defuse a macho situation. It's just whether to inflict it on dd1 & dd2 (dear daughter first & second abbreviation, hopefully right, never checked, just guessed).

I do back the school on uniform, healthy eating, handwashing, etc. so don't want to say strongly the school are wrong. I have tried the soft approach and I would like the girls to know the Christian stories but I am so tempted to subvert it in a naughty way. Did n't realise how much it would annoy me until this weeks explanation of the lovely Jesus and the evil kings knights who put him on a cross.

I am almost word perfect with Withnail

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bobdog · 22/03/2010 16:09

Our scientific version of a beloved nursey rhyme:

Twinkle, twinkle little star
Now I know just what you are
Up above the Earth so high
Flaming gas ball in the sky
Twinkle, twinkle little star
How I wander whether your solar system supports alien life forms

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BritFish · 22/03/2010 16:11

you are SO NOT BEING UNREASONABLE.
make it compulsory bedtime viewing, teach her all the best quotes.
and of course she should know all the words, can you imagine a classful of kids singing that while a bewildered teacher looks on?
beautiful.
i use the word 'story' same way as i tell my kids the 'story' of how me and DH met. its true, its just a word.

my DC's are um...well, my DD [19] thinks it's a load of rubbish, and i like how she sees it -i dont need to have an explanantion for everything, im not a child, noone could possibly know what happens after death and i dont WANT to know!

my DS used to give the teachers a fair runaround, and at 17 he actually struggles to believe people really think the bible is true! he genuinely doesnt understand why anyone would believe it!
he's so mean to the preachers in our town, out on the street. he'll stop and have a chat, the time i was with him he said he didnt need imaginary friends, and did this mean he should believe in father christmas too? and this was when he was 13!

im either a really bad parent or an excellent one! i was carefully neutral until they were old enough to make their own minds up and they asked me my opinion!

gobsmackedetal · 23/03/2010 17:49

YANBU.
"every sperm is sacred" might not be relevant but it's bound to catch the teacher's attention.

helyg · 23/03/2010 17:59

Interesting but probably not entirely relevant fact: The actress who played Judith in Life of Brian does the toddler story sessions at our local library. I'm sure that the DC will use this as a claim to fame in future!

Anyway... YANBU. I am a Christian and my DC go to Sunday school, but I don't think that children should be taught religion as fact if that is not their parents wishes.

Plus it would be funny

stealthsquiggle · 23/03/2010 18:07

I walked into DD's nursery the other day (end of day - DD last man stading as per usual) and the music on the CD player was "always look on the bright side of life". I admit, I smirked.

I stick rigidly to the 'some people believe' line but since what school says is right and what Mummy says is, at best, open to question, DS and I are agreeing to differ on this right now.

spottysox · 23/03/2010 18:19

YANBU My parents forgot to get me christened, I was a late baby and they just never got round to it. I am glad of it now, but Mil was horrified when she found out and wanted me to get done asap I do not believe and just ask my children to question everything then make up their own minds. But I would prefer they quote Monty Python than then Bible

AliGrylls · 23/03/2010 18:22

I don't think you're being unreasonable about the it being treated as fact, so long as you are not objecting to them being taught about the Bible and Jesus.

If children don't know about Christianity then they will never be able to make up their own minds about what they believe.

It does sound amusing.

throckenholt · 23/03/2010 18:29

when they come home with those "Facts" is the time to start telling them - yes that is what some people believe. But lots of others don't think it is true, that it is just a story.

I think it is just a story - and would like you to know that you can think whichever suits you.

I know they are young - but if they are old enough to be fed religion then they are old enough to get the other side too

GrimmaTheNome · 23/03/2010 18:30

Those of you who can't stand the creator-god indoctrination of school hymns will want to introduce you to Eric Idle's version of All Things...

DD came across it, juxtaposed with the original, in a nice anthology edited by Anne Fine (Too Good To Miss vol 1) and took great delight in singing it.

Somehow she's never been taken in by RE at school. I remember in about yr1 she announced incredulously that she thought all the actually teachers believed in God. Fortunately this hasn't seemed to undermine their authority in other areas where they rightfully need it.

throckenholt · 23/03/2010 18:31

hassled - your son sounds like a clone of mine - can be quite interesting when they come out with comments like that !

GrimmaTheNome · 23/03/2010 18:38

I stood quietly by one day several years ago when DD was about 6 and her 7 yr old friend said something about God having made all the animals. DD roundly informed her, 'No, they evolved' and launched into a lecturette about dinosaurs etc

bobdog · 23/03/2010 20:02

Thankyou everyone, great to hear that science, humour and respect for other peoples beliefs are all co existing out there.

Will continue to feed children as per schools health eating guidance with a side plate of respectful attitude and generous helping of subversive quotes. (Can't resist correct All Things...)

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bobdog · 23/03/2010 20:08

Gosh helyg you truely are a friend of the stars .

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BelleDeChocolateFluffyBunny · 23/03/2010 20:08

I can't wait for July 23rd, ds is moving to a new school in September, he's been told at his current school that children don't go to school to learn, make friends or learn how to get along with other people, they go to please god!

We love Monty Python ! "you don't need to follow me, you don't need to follow anyone, you are all individuals!!"

BelleDeChocolateFluffyBunny · 23/03/2010 20:09

I was tempted to make his next reading book Charles Darwin's 'Origin of the species'. Do you think it will be OK?

darkandstormy · 23/03/2010 21:07

my ds4 told his pre school class leader there was a skeleton who waited in a cave for 3 days who then came out,he is called Jesus,classic nursery rhyme stuff.Think I will play him "bright side of life " tell him it was the skeletons fave song

thehillsarealive · 23/03/2010 21:12

it depends on whether your DC go to a faith school or not. If not YANBU, if yes, YABU>

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