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to think my neighbour should give them back?

114 replies

Tiredmumno1 · 17/03/2010 10:54

Right i just needed some advice and whether anyone has been in this situation. Months before the end of last year my kids had kicked a few balls (by accident) into our neighbours jungle/rubbish tip garden, but havent thrown them back, even though i asked, i am so sick of it. There is no point in knocking again they never answer the bloody door. Surely this is theft. wwyd.

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Tiredmumno1 · 03/04/2010 15:08

Can you read runnybottom. They didnt tell her to feck off the police told her to call back in 24 hours if they were not returned, which she did, and the police went round and got them back for her. God your weird

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Mongolia · 03/04/2010 15:11

Try it then

rainbowinthesky · 03/04/2010 15:13

Tiredmumof1 - For someone who cried more than they've ever cried in their life after a previous aibu and called us all bullies, you really have toughened up for this thread

DivineInspiration · 03/04/2010 16:10

I think you just have to conclude that your neighbours don't like things being kicked into their garden, and that if the balls have been there since last year you've left it too long to reasonably expect the neighbours to hold onto them. Tell your DC to be more careful in future, then you won't have the problem. Doesn't help with the already lost balls, but prevention is better than cure, surely.

"Can you read runnybottom. They didnt tell her to feck off the police told her to call back in 24 hours if they were not returned, which she did, and the police went round and got them back for her. God your weird"

I find that pretty odd. Whilst it may have been appropriate for the police officer to suggest that your friend's neighbour return the ball in a timely way in order to defuse the situation, I doubt they could have insisted on it - apart from anything else, the police have no proof who owns the ball or how it came to be in the neighbours' possession, unless your friend makes a habit of putting security marks on footballs. But if it worked for her, why don't you try it?

RockSteady · 03/04/2010 16:18

wouldn't get the police involved but i dont think YABU. i guess your neighbours have used their garden at least once in the past few months, it wouldn't take much effort just to throw the balls back over.If someone was constantly kicking balls into my garden i would be annoyed but that doesn't sound like the case here. and i'd still throw them back.

runnybottom · 03/04/2010 16:41

I can read. I think you or your friend is bullshitting though. You call the police over kids balls in a neighbours garden, and I'm weird?
. Bonkers.

Tiredmumno1 · 03/04/2010 16:49

What can i say rainbow i found a spine. And runny i really dont give a toss what you have to say, who the hell put you in charge, so everything we say is bullshit and you are mother fucking teresa.

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runnybottom · 03/04/2010 17:18

Way to prove you're not bonkers there.

Why don't you call the police about me?

tethersend · 03/04/2010 17:22

You didn't find that spine in your garden did you, Tiredmumno1?

It could be your neighbour's...

CrankyTwanky · 03/04/2010 17:53

May I suggest this may be the answer to your problems?

runnybottom · 03/04/2010 17:56

or this

CrankyTwanky · 03/04/2010 18:02

Ha, RB!
And there's me trying to disprove the whole nest-of-vipers thing!

Tiredmumno1 · 03/04/2010 19:20

Now i think you would be a total waste of police sources, could you imagine their faces when they have to listen to the crap that comes out your runnymouth.

And tether i did find it in the garden think i will keep it we have grown attached, and its not theft ya know its on my land

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runnybottom · 03/04/2010 19:32

do you mean resources? Perhaps you should go back to swearing, you don't seem great at the big words.

AmazingBouncingFerret · 03/04/2010 19:45

Fucking hell, this thread has kicked off hasnt it...

runnybottom · 03/04/2010 19:50

BTW, I've just checked with an actual real life policeman, he says your friend and her imaginary Plod are wrong, theres no such rule or law, and its not theft.

Oh, and he thinks you're bonkers too.

Hope that helps.

Shaz10 · 03/04/2010 20:01

AmazingBouncingFerret Here is a badum tish for you!

Tinuviel · 03/04/2010 20:34

I always understood (may be wrong) that if a ball comes into your garden, you are not allowed to damage/move it but you can refuse to let the little PITAs come and get it/refuse to hand it back.

Living on the corner of a busy road with a quiet street, I have been at the mercy of many PITAs who think it is acceptable to damage plants in my garden 5 times in the space of an hour so long as they come round and ask for it back! This would involve me getting off my backside; going and answering the front door; closing and relocking my front door; going and unlocking/unbolting my back door; throwing said ball back; relocking my back door. Only to have to do it all again 10 minutes later! I used to hit the roof.

After a while I twigged that it was a mild sort of entertainment for them - let's watch the woman on the corner go mad.

So one day I answered the door and when asked for the ball, said no and closed the door. The next time I was in the garden, I threw the ball back into the street. This happened 3 or 4 times. Oddly enough after that, they played ball somewhere else. These kids were all older than 11 and there is a park with goalposts within 5 minutes walk.

bizzzybee · 21/05/2010 13:44

I am a keen gardener and I grow lots of extra plants from seed and cuttings to donate to plant sales which are held to raise money for the local hospice and church and various other local good causes. The family in the house next door comprises three young children, the eldest of which (a boy) is sport mad. Every day, at least three balls come over the 6ft fence and often it is more - I think the most we have had in a single day is 15. These range in weight and size - the tennis balls are not too bad, but the cricket and golf balls and the leather footballs and rugby balls cause the most damage. And it isn't just balls - last week, a hockey stick came over and yesterday, a cricket bat. When I return the balls and bats to the parents, no apology is ever forthcoming - indeed, they seem to find it somewhat amusing in a 'boys will be boys' sort of fashion. Two weeks ago when I last returned a bucket of balls, I told the mother that tho' I very much regret it, from now on I shall be asking them to replace any further plants they smash as I have lost count of how many they have wrecked; I had hoped this might encourage her to insist her children take greater care but her response was to simply smile and say I should in future just let them know what they owe me and they will settle up. However, in my view, this is not really the answer because she is failing to teach her children to show consideration and respect for others and my enjoyment of my garden continues to be wrecked. Whatever Tiredmummo's other issues with her neighbours may be, they do not alter the fact that her kid's balls should NOT be in the neighbour's garden - it is NOT the neighbour's fault that they are there! Perhaps if Tiredmummo (and/or her kids) accepted some responsibility for the nuisance caused - perhaps even apologised? - then this might go some way towards improving the situation somewhat. Parents who constantly defend the bad behaviour of their children with the "they're only children" defence do their children a disservice and are completely missing the point - it is precisely BECAUSE they are children that they need to be taught to modify their behaviour and attitudes towards others; this, after all, is the role of a parent. If such behaviour is always excused, then these children go on to become inconsiderate and selfish adults.

arsesandoldlace · 21/05/2010 14:27
Hmm
poppymouse · 21/05/2010 15:31

Bizzybee, Tiredmum's problems are not only with her neighbour. I think we have all guessed that much.

ApocalypseCheese · 21/05/2010 16:30

Oooh tiredmum !!

ApocalypseCheese · 21/05/2010 16:36

Oi, I think the making digs towards tiredmum regarding mental health is pretty low and utter bollocks tbh.

Tiredmum, having a row on the internet is like painting the forth bridge, you'll never finish it, so step away from the thread and click hide !

BoysAreLikeDogs · 21/05/2010 16:50

An old thread folks, entertaining though it be may be

I am not sure why bizzzybee has resurrected

TheLifeOfRiley · 21/05/2010 16:57

I can offer the POV of the neighbour getting balls over and not answering the door. I don't answer the door because it is not convenient to me to do so. I know the knock means me unlocking my back door and searching my back yard (this would be worse with an overgrown garden no doubt) at a time that is inconvenient to me on a regular basis.

I can also off the POV of a neighbour with a tatty garden living next door to childre who play football. I am not bothering to plant plants in the only bit of land (in my front yard) that I could use to plant plants in because I know they would get wrecked by footballs and children traipsing in and out to get the balls.

I do give the balls back though, but when it suits me to. Missing their ball may make them more careful - that's the optimistic theory I am currently testing anyway.

Also, when my neighbours are playing with a football I am seriously on edge fearing for my windows and cannot relax at all while they are playing with footballs. I'm all for kids playing outside but think unless you have a garden the size of a field then you need to take a ball to the park or nearest playing field. That's what I do with my DS (who also has SN).

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