to absolutely detest faddy diets & quick fixes?

[PetPeeveBonanza]

I am sure I am going to get flamed for this, but I can hide safely behind my namechange

It is my absolute biggest pet peeve, people who go on faddy diets that are bad for their health, and another is people who say they 'cant' give up chocolate/cake/takeaways.

As somebody with a variety of severe allergies/food intolerances, and health problems resulting from this - it bugs me no end when people put their health at risk volunatarily doing diets like atkins and the cambridge diet.

It goes against all medical advice, and is just a stupid lazy thing to do. Voluntarily putting yourself into ketosis? Do you people have no respect for your bodies? I reached ketosis through illness and was hospitalised and had to be put on a drip as it got so bad. It makes me sick that people are glad when they reach this, as if they are achieving something.

Maybe it is a quick fix, but it won't work in the long run, and you are putting your health at risk...for what? You need carbs, just be sensible. How hard is it just to eat a sensible balanced diet? Toast for breakfast is not going to stop you losing weight, nor is a jacket potato with a healthy filling...if you are serious about losing weight do it the right way and don't deprive your body of anything it needs! Yes, it may take longer, but at least you won't look washed out, thinning hair and low on energy.

There is so much choice out there for a healthy balanced diet, that you will be able to stick to! And I wish every day that I had that much choice of food to eat. And if you really really want to lose weight and be healthy, it is possible, just stop eating crap! Remember that food is meant to be there for nutrition, to keep your body working in the right way. Take care of your body, don't abuse it!

"I have not said anything that a doctor would not say, it is not a sensible way to lose weight, it is dangerous and nobody who had a good idea about nutrition would recommend it."

So not true. Many of your comments show that actually you hold very strong opinions on things to which you are fairly ignorant.

Orm's 19:47 post offered some very good points.

OP wrote:
"Oblovomov because I can't eat anything more. Like physically can't, for health reasons. It's not a matter of choice, and like it or not, you do have a choice to stop eating so much."

uuuuuurrr, I'm sorry, Op, but why should I stop eating so much ?
I am not overweight. I am a size 12. And get weighed at every diabetic clinic i go to - every 3 months for the last 35 years, since aged 1.
And no doctor I have ever seen has suggested losing weight, that I needed too, or eating less.
so what is the basis for your recommendation?

Actually petpeeve I am suspicious about whether you have ever had to lose a substantial amount of weight . I also have to contest what you have written about ketosis, as I strongly suspect what you were in was ketoacidosis which is very dangerous and is not the same as ketosis.
Also, if someone who is obese loses weight by whatever means they can they will benefit substantially.
Not all overweight people eat crap (me included) and for some people 1 carb leads to another i.e. having potatoes with gravy and requiring bread to dip in said gravy. I lost 5 stone doing Atkins and had I not got pg would have happily continued. I did not eat fried food, just grilled meat, veg and I still had fruit. I didn't eat carbs. If you take a look at cavemen you will realise that this way of eating is fine. They had no capacity to cook potato, make bread or pasta etc. I believe at 12 stone I have far more energy than I did at 15 stone and am placing significantly less strain on every part of my body.
If you don't like it thats fine but why be so judgemental?

well you are wrong about what a doctor would or would not say. Mine fully supported Cambridge. Fortunately, most health professionals take a more balanced view and consider the health implications of being overweight versus the method employed to reduce weight.

i also do not see how eating habbits of those you have branded as disgusting has any bearing on people dying of starvation.

An if you truly believe there is nothing wrong in what you have said why would you hide behind a namechange?

PetPeeve you sound a petulent child. An ignorant petulent child. Grow up and deal with your own problems as opposed to attacking other peoples.

I haven't read all the replies so sorry if someone has said this, but when will people realise that it doesn't matter HOW you lose the weight, once its gone, if you eat more than your body needs, you will put it back on again.

You could lose 3 stone in 2 months on Cambridge and gain it all back in 6 weeks if you eat like a pig.

You could lose 3 stone in a year on weight watchers and gain it all back in 6 weeks if you eat like a pig.

Moderation is the ONLY WAY to MAINTAIN your weight long term. Regardless of how you lost it.

There are studies that suggest that the quicker you lose the weight the more likely you are to put it back on, but this has to be something to do with the type of personality that takes up a certain type of diet. A proper medically monitored ketogenic diet will have no worse effect on basal metabolic rate than sensible calorie reduction, therefore psychology behind overeating is a key factor in gaining weight. And that will be a factor regardless of how it was lost in the first place.

Slow, sensible weight loss eating a balanced diet is of course the best way to lose weight. But quicker medically supervised loss followed by maintenance is better than never losing the weight and staying obese.

Actually I am a health professional! Luckily I feel that people have a right to chose how they lose weight and if it works for them I applaud them
Oh and I can assure the OP that I am certainly not starving Before Atkins I ate 1 meal per day, metabolism down to nil almost. I now eat breakfast, lunch (salad) and evening meal (meat and huge plate of veg), more than I ever ate before!

my GP recommended cambridge to me - I am assuming she has some training in nutrition!

My overeating was disgusting yes, and obscene at times yes, and I felt sickened by it.

But I as a person am none of those things, thank you very much.

My overeating was a symptom of my illness, just like you have symptoms of your condition (albeit mine was mental, yours physical, but I fail to see how that make s adifference)

Because, I felt disgusted by how oevrwiehgt I had become, I took steps to rectify it. You may not agree with the steps I took but your posts have been quite nasty.

Luckily I am now in a much better place emotionally than I was 4 years a go - so I couldn't really give a damn whether you think I cheated to lose weight or not! Are you this judgemental and lacking in empathy in real life?

yeah realised that after i posted, ah well made me feel better LOL.

OP i think you're a bit of a big, fat coward, posting all this under another name. if this is what you believe, stand up and say it.

inzidoodle , I don't think that the OP is anyone off your thread, I really don't. PLease don't leave because of a cowardly, nasty coward.

I completely agree with Sloanypony's post.

Cowardly Coward?
Cowardly Namechanger, sorry

YANBU, I haven't read any responses really, but wanted to just respond to the OP. Several of my colleagues are on one of these starve yourself diets. One colleague has had great success with it, I literally did not recognise her when I returned after maternity leave. But, she has become quite addicted to this method of losing weight, so when she stops the diet, she eats badly, puts on a bit of weight, then starves herself. She has no real interest in eating healthily or exercising. She's quite young atm, but I can't help thinking that as she gets older this way of dieting will seriously affect her health.

Of the other colleagues who are on the diet, one has been ill with anemia and the other is making herself miserable by taking breaks from it and gorging herself on shit food and promising that she'll start again "next week". She's gained weight since she started this depressing cycle.

None of these women exercise or show any interest in food in a positive way. I think the main problem with these diets is that they don't address the often unhealthy relationship some people have with food and well-being.

lost 4 stone with Xenical and then got pg. can't wait for the birth so can get back on them

have tried and generally failed every quick fix and long term healthy eating exercise plan going and range from normal weight to obese from year to year

yes some diets are down right dangerous others are a initial boost to weight loss that enables the user to go on to adopt a healthier lifestyle

others like myself who was put on first diet at 5yrs old by a paediatrition. this 'diet' consisted of being deprived of any food except fruit or veg on weekdays but encouraged to bing on as many packets of crisps or sweets or other crap at weekend!

i think the objective was that i'd make myself sick and not want to touch junk again. never worked in turning me bulimic although i have tried it. i could do the binging part but not the throwing up

sensibly this diet was quickly banished only to be replaced by others and a deep seated depression and a lifetime of yo-yo dieting that will prob stick forever

thank god DS has inherited DHs slim gene i hope expectant DD will too

unless you have never experienced the lure of these miricle quick fixes you just don't understand. i feel people who dismiss them and the probs of those doing them are no better than those who tell you in the middle of a bad depressive period 'to just smile and get on with things'

ofcourse we didn't see you - you lost 4 stone

Aww, that was so nice! still got some to go. got GTT in the morning to prove it!

sorry, had to come back.
Is it now the norm to pretend to be, say, someone from your March 07 PN thread, and traipse out all these hurtful things about another poster.
OP you are .... disturbed. Why would you do this ?
The lives others lead. Honestly. Tis a mystery to me.

I'm on the oct 07 thread and know Inzi very well. I have no idea who this person is...