To wonder why there are always more disabled spaces than mother&baby spaces in car parks?

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In places like Waitrose, John Lewis, etc. Surely there are more mothers with little children out there than disabled people?

I would say 'are you new' but I think I recognise your name...

Hmm, well, maybe because disabled people NEED the spaces while for those of us with wee kids it is easier but not necessary to have them.

yes, but unlike disabled people, mothers with small children are still perfectly capable of using normal parking spaces if there are no parent&child ones available.

ffs you really are a dick

I lose all reason on threads like these, so can I just cut to the chase and say:

get a grip, love

possibly

but disabled people really need a space, whereas most parents with small children can cope in a normal space

it's also to do with DDA and this determines the number of spaces required. some good companies go further. parent & child spaces are just a courtesy/marketing tactic

perhaps because it the law to have a certain number of disabled spaces,
oh why bother........

Puhleese.

Because blue badge holders absolutely NEED easy access spaces or they cannot visit the premises.

Lack of a Mother and baby space shouldn't (normally, unless you are pretty feeble) stop you being able to do your shopping.

exactly 2shoes. if someone is stupid enough to start a thread like this, there is no point in explaining it.

How long before someone pops up with the comment that having small children is like being disabled? I agree with 2shoes.

What pisses me off is the fact that you always, always, always see men ON THEIR OWN driving these massive, bloody petrol guzzling people carriers and SUVs and they park in whatever space they like - disabled/parent&child etc.

I know you should prob challenge someone who does this but then you risk getting into some kind of horrible scene outside the supermarket. Shouldn't there be some kind of sanction on people who take special spaces they have absolutely no need for just cos they can't be bothered driving around the car park and taking one slightly further away? Grr

the sun is shining here and I am baking cakes

I find that disabled people (or old people, who just have the badges) park in the parent and child spaces, ignoring the disabled bays, which are further away. They often then get out of their cars and bowl into waitrose, leaving poor parent struggling in normal sized parking bay with pram, baby and toddler. Think it is much safer for the children to be able to park closer to the shop or next to the paths. I would never park in a disabled bay and feel the same respect should be shown to the parent and child spaces by people with disabled badges. The only exception I would make is if ALL disabled bays are full and disabled person genuinely needs wider bay for wheelchair.

pmls
oh there is always one

I agree OP, not saying people should cut down on disabled places but our shopping centre car park was re-done with 70+ disabled bays (great) and 4 parent and child. Spaces are so tight that you cannot get a car seat out the door, have to park the chassis round on the 'road' and all this with severe SPD. Sorry, I think there should be more P + T spaces with direct access if possible along walkways/crossings. Supermarket car parks are only ever full on Christmas Eve so they can clearly 'afford' the space for more. Even if it's a big section at the back with a direct path to the store.Or even a bigger space as standard. But no, they won't risk any customers turning away if they see the car park looks full due to less spaces.

I'm admiring your calmness on this thread, 2shoes.

i just got that eye sliding thing on saslou's post. that normally only happens when dh gives me his work to review

it is the cakes coppertop, the fumes are getting to me

Hasnt it been about 5 minutes since we did this last???

Parent and child spaces should be banned

Oh lord.

Firstly, you don't get a badge simply for being old. You have to have medical grounds.

Secondly, parent and child spaces are useful, yes. But if someone with a badge were to park in one because it suited them better than the disabled bays, then I reckon they sgould be allowed to!

Nice use of the word "bowl" for the movement of badge holders, particularly in juxtaposition with the "struggling" poor parents. Having children is not a disability. And you don't have to be in a wheelchair to have persuasive reasons not to walk long distances.

I always wonder at the tesco ones that refer to parents taking buggies into the shop. Never really understood why anyone would bother with that - just use a trolley.

having a child is like having a disability...

there I said it
saves someone else posting it.
I love talking bollocks

Parent and child spaces are a privelidge. Often abused, but a privelidge none the less. 20 years ago there were none, but surprise surprise people managed just fine.

I really can't believe that some people think p&c spaces are more important than disabled!

I use p&c if they are available, but if not, it is not a big deal to use a regular space and I can still do what I came for.

People who are disabled and who cannot get a disabled space may not be able to do what they are there for!

(Lemonade, btw, it might be worth looking into getting a temp blue badge if your SPD is bad. They are sometimes granted. SPD is rotten)