To wonder why there are always more disabled spaces than mother&baby spaces in car parks?

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In places like Waitrose, John Lewis, etc. Surely there are more mothers with little children out there than disabled people?

aew you all still argueing??
you know you broke mn

What an unfortunate OP. I see having a parent and baby area as a privilege. For many disabled people their allocated parking zones are a necessity.

Don't remember saying that people are given badges because they are old, fat, lazy etc. I do know people who use family members badges or have abused system to get one in the first place. I live in a small place where you do tend to know people and I feel pissed off when they park in the P&C spaces.Feel quite justified in being judgy. Am esp annoyed at people with no dc or disability parking in these places. Also don't think it is so bad to ask adult disabled people to park in disabled bays IF there are spaces rather than P&C ones. It isn't a question of meeting parents needs over those of disabled people,just all people being considerate.
Yes it is possible to park in normal spaces with children, which is why disabled people rightly get priority over P&C spaces if disabled are full, but it is nicer not to if shopping with small children.
My dad is disabled and never parks in P&C spaces, just as I would never park in a disabled bay

Put it this way.

If you drive somewhere and the only two spaces available are a disabled one and a mother and child one, and you have neither child or blue badge, I think most people would park in the m + c bay.

It makes me wonder how people managed for years without m + c spaces.

Anyway, shouldn't they be parent and child? Seems a bit discriminatory to me.

Parent and child spaces are a marketing ploy introduced by supermarkets, nothing more. Hell, you could always get the bus.

Put it this way.

If you drive somewhere and the only two spaces available are a disabled one and a mother and child one, and you have neither child or blue badge, I think most people would park in the m + c bay.

It makes me wonder how people managed for years without m + c spaces.

Anyway, shouldn't they be parent and child? Seems a bit discriminatory to me.

Parent and child spaces are a marketing ploy introduced by supermarkets, nothing more. Hell, you could always get the bus.

I think it depends on where you live. Some places don't have enough disabled parking yes, but there are lots of places where there is more than enough disabled spaces.

You do know that there are disabled people that have children. I know, I know, it's a shocker.

I am disabled and have a blue badge but sometimes park in a P&C space. The fact I have a 5y old and a 2y old means I'm as blardy entitled to park in one as you, OP.

Orm
can I just check?
I keep reading pointed posts from you which I don't quite understand. Am I missing something or am I imagining something? I suspect it could be either.

It could quite possibly be me but I have a slightly odd feeling, which I can't quite pinpoint, that I may have pissed you off. I do hope not.

YABVVVU !!!

saslou I would park in either a disabled bay or a p&T bay.

Because disabled spaces matter and are important and mother and baby spaces are a nice convenience?

oh god I could use the F word so many times on this post.
I have a physically disabled child, he WILL NOT go in a push chair, he HAS to be carried, he is 18 month old, can not walk, or sit for that matter, do I have a blue badge???? NO. he is too young to qualify. do I insist on parking in a M&T space??? no.
I dont have the time to circle the car park dozzens of times until one becomes availabe!
I suggest you direct your time and energy into something more useful, that starting threads which, get the torch and pitch-folk bearing disability hating ejits on their high horses, spouting nonsense!

I do think parents of disabled children do get a hard time generally as the state doesn't always do a lot to support, but my comments aren't about where parents of disabled children park. I have said that diabled people should get priority, just that if there is a choice of disabled and P&C and you are a disabled adult, where is the harm in parking in the disabled bay so the parent can have the other one?
amber - if only 2 spaces were available then yes I would think it better to park in P&C than the disabled bay

saslou have you thought that the disabled adult might have just seen the bay and assumed it was a disabled bay.
not everyone even knows about such luxurys

Try the Light car park in Leeds- It is full of disabled parking spaces- mostly empty on a Saturday afternoon, many a time we have driven round and round again and not been able to find an able bodied parking space.

But why should I catch 3 different buses to get there when we can drive????- I am not saying there shouldn't be spaces near the car park entrance for disabled drivers (or those with diasbled passengers), I am just saying that there are more spaces, in my experience, than is actually necessary. If the car park is full that it is one in one out, yet there are several empty disabled spaces then they must be overestimating the demand for them.

Um...has any of the people complaining about disabled spaces ever thought of shopping online? We save an average of £40 a week at Sainsbos, which is not a cheap supermarket by any stretch - and that includes delivery. That ought to stop the whining, surely?

I live near leeds and I know there is more than 1 car park there, if your that upset by the amount of disabled bays at the light then park else where and WALK!

I think people who equate M&T spaces with disabled spaces are deranged.

At my local Sainsbos I park in the M&T spaces whether on my own or with teenage dd. They are the nearest spaces to the front door so park there for my convenience. Yes, perhaps I am a selfish twat. I tend to do my shopping in the evenings so don't think I am 'depriving' a desperate mother of a space.

Would not dream of doing so in a disabled space.

All this handwringing makes my eyes roll. If all the M&T spaces are gone and you need some more room to get a baby seat out just straddle two parking spaces.

I dodn;t drive when dd was a baby so I used to get buses and walk. So find all the 'need' for spaces a bit of a daft argument.

Am pmsl at the reasoning for the need for p and c spaces being that you need somewhere safe for your children to stand whilst getting ickle babies out.

get the baby out first ffs. Then get the older ones out. Its common sense innit.

You know, that thing we all used to have but seems to have disappeared under a massive tidal wave of entitlement.