To wonder why there are always more disabled spaces than mother&baby spaces in car parks?

[Feierabend]

In places like Waitrose, John Lewis, etc. Surely there are more mothers with little children out there than disabled people?

ToccataAndFudge i relieved to hear he grew back and you didn't just leave him as a puddle

M&T spaces should be at the back of the supermarket car park - which would allow more of them and more room.

this may mean that your child will get wet if it's raining. and as we all know if a child gets wet it melts - this can be very dangerous.

Hence i suggest that if this were ever to happen, that children wear coats.

theer is also the danger if you have more than one child that they will run off into the busy car park hence the psaces need to be near to the store. I say that this is a clear and present danger all the time wherever you go. However i managed to walk around with 3 children and they never ran off. I also managed to strap them into the car before putting the shopping away.

you can tell i've done this argument before can't you

saslou - people with blue badges have them so that they can park wherever is convenient for them.

If that happens to be a M & B space, then so be it. Who are we to decide what's best for them?

Shops have to allocate spaces for blue badge holders by law, but they aren't always available, and they aren't necessarily in a convenient place for every single blue badge holder. Just got a suck it up, and thank your lucky stars you don't need a blue badge.

Very well said 2shoes,come take a walk in our shoes. . . .

well it was tempting to leave him as a puddle, as he actually wanted to stay in the rain, but I managed to scoop him up and bring him home to the dry..........

I may try using the shower on him to see if it has the same effect when he's being a little rascal though

Sidge you are a bit judgy too, we dont all have big cars mines a Piccanto if you must know . Space size differs throught car parks so I challenge you to get frisky large baby and irritable toddler in a narrow gap with a frozen shoulder and keep your sanity intact. Pand T spaces are a nice thought from shops and I wecome them.

any one else now humming 'someone left the cakes out in the rain'... ;-)

It's obviously a conspiracy to, you know, make life a little easier for people with disabilities.

"If you can't go shopping with your children without having to park in a M&B space then:

1. You are drving a car that is too big.
2. You can't park properly.
3. You are too bloody idle to park further away from the store where there are more spaces and walk.
4. Your sense of entitlement to have life made easy for you is greater than your common sense."

Fab post, couldn't agree more.

They should just stop all M&B spaces and simply have the disabled ones and normal ones.

I've never not been able to get DS out of his car seat in a normal space and get him safely across the car park.

I once saw a family park in a disabled bay at a very busy Ikea they had no blue badge and when they got out the car, the two kids (10-14 I guess) were pretending to walk with a limp and doing that duh expression when you stick your tongue into the bottom of your lip and making stupid noises. Parents were laughing hysterically at them.

I put a rather nasty note on their car.

Still, if my child finally gets to see an ed-psych, gets a dx and a statement - I might get my very own golden pass blue badge. Hoorah. For me. Yah boo sucks for everyone else

No???

Just one more thing - I honestly know of people who have blue badges and don't need them. I am NOT saying that P&C spaces need to be close to the shop or that disabled bays should be reduced. I actually think disabled bays should be closer to the shop than P&C. BUT, disabled people should not park in P&C bays or vice versa because parents need safe places away from traffic and they need wide bays too and this should be respected. as I said, exception should be if no disabled bays are left

Saslou you are talking bollocks! Looking at someone with a blue badge gives you no idea of whether they are disabled or not ! My mate had MS he had a blue badge because he could only walk very short distances before he fell over. To look at he was a tall healthy looking bloke and the number of bastards who gave him , his wife and baby daughter abuse for using and disabled bay was huge. Nice eh Funnily enough when he could no longer walk and used a wheelchair people stopped being abusive! How dare you judge people! Get off your (healthy) arse and walk and leave other people who you have on idea about alone.

No no no no no! THey MUST keep the M & B spaces. At least for those who DO have big cars and/or cannot park very well.

I'm fed up of finding my car with dents down the side where people have swung their doors open onto mine.

Feierabend, borrow a wheelchair, strap your legs together so you can't use them, and go shopping without anyone else there to help you. Then post again if you still feel the same,
Blimey, we have a long way to go to educate people on this topic.

Oh an to the OP YABAUT (that's you are being an unreasonable twat )

Or BCCP for short (Big Car Cant Park).

Saslou - you may be seeing people who appear to be walking fine, but who would be barely able to move for the rest of the day if they had to walk any distance. Disability is not always about needing a wheelchair, a walking frame, or even a stick - it can be about debilitating conditions which are not immediately obvious to the observer.

OTOH you may also be seeing people who have bought a blue badge fraudulently, or be using one belonging to a friend or relative - it's not completely unheard of! However, life is difficult enough with a disability without being glared or tutted at by people who don't have any understanding of it, so I don't thinkk you should challenge anyone with a badge unless you know every detail of their life.

I think the reason that there are so few P&C spaces (ignoring the disabled bit as that is just a stupid comparison) is because so few people need a P&C space - the ONLY people who NEED a wider space are those who wish to carry their (under 9mo) child into the store in a car seat, as most poeple are able to take their children out of a car seat and most children are over 9mo in any case the %age who NEED a wide space is tiny, minute, miniscule...hence the apparent lack of spaces - maybe they should rename them to clear confusion "Parent Who Cannot Opperate a ChildSeat Catch and Who's Baby is Under 9MO and in The Car Spaces"??