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Am I really the daughter-in-law from hell?

103 replies

VerityClinch · 25/02/2010 10:56

My in laws are coming to stay the week after next. In preparation, they have phoned DH to tell him they don't feel welcome here, think I barely tolerate their presence and that I don't like them.

I am dumbfounded.

This apparently stems from their last visit, when, allegedly, I "hid myself away" from them.

For context, when they last visited, my DD was 8 weeks old. I had had a c-section and blood transfusion. I had only been cleared by the doctor to lift my hands above my head for 10 days. Oh, and I was KNACKERED due to all of the above.

I did, indeed, spend one whole morning in bed with DD, breastfeeding. I did also go to bed every night at 10:30pm, while they stayed up drinking and chatting. I did this because I would be up another 3 times in the night, and because I was only allowing myself one glass of wine whilst trying - and failing, and feeling pretty crap about that too - to breastfeed.

BUT since we had turned the spare room they usually sleep in into the nursery, I had also cleared out the study, thrown away all my furniture and put in a smaller desk so we had room for a sofa bed (newly purchased for this reason) for them to sleep on.

I also did all the cooking while they were here, which meant separate meals for MIL as she is veggie.

Incidentally, I also do ALL birthday, Christmas, mothers day, fathers day, new job, good luck in exams, happy retirement etc etc shopping/cards. When pregnant, I sent them updates each time I saw the midwife/GP and sent them my scan photos. Also put together a presentation for MIL as part of her degree which took me 5 hours, took SIL to get her hair restyled (for the first time in 20 years), wrote BIL's CV for him and a hundred other minor kindnesses which have apparently gone unnoticed.

Since DD has been born, I have sent them photos and videos about 3 times per week. I have emailed with details of all her milestones (holding head up, first tooth etc etc). She is now 8 months. They live in Aberdeen, and we live in London, so this will only be the third time they've seen her and I think there is some jealousy that my parents (who live 18 miles away) have seen her more (but do not need to stay overnight if they visit). But they couldn't visit more often because MIL was doing her degree, so studying and going to lectures etc and they have horses which need to be looked after/babysat if they are away.

I think they are selfish beyond belief to think it could be "all about them". I have a baby to look after FFS, and yes, she IS going to come first, and no, I am not going to breastfeed her lying on the floor in the living room (I could only feed lying down) so they could all have a good look, and I AM going to go to bed if I am tired (and of course I am tired) and 10:30 isn't THAT early is it? I mean, so early it counts as "hiding away"? They have three children, and I know it was years ago, but can they really have forgotten what it's like?

AIBU to not really want them to come back if this is how they feel about me? What more do they want?!

DH, btw, tells me to ignore them, just like he does, if they are "being difficult". He once didn't speak to his dad for 9 months following a disagreement about MP's pensions, so this is the level of maturity we are dealing with, I'm afraid.

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pixiestix · 25/02/2010 11:44

You definitely need to put your side of things across.
You may only see them four times a year but that doesn't accurately reflect how much time and effort you have put into making sure they have a good relationship with your DC and your DH.

It may not do any good though. They sound like selfish twunts

DuelingFanjo · 25/02/2010 11:45

"do I wade in and give them MY version"

just seen this. I say YES. I think, if you are brave enough, you should be extremely blunt with them starting with asking them why, if they are such good people people, didn't they raise theri cincerns with you in a more appropriate way and like adults rather than doing it in a phone call to your DH.

I think you have every right to contact them and say 'I hear that you felt unwelcome in the house last time you came to stay and I just wanted to chat to you about it before you come down'

mee them head on and explain to them all the things you have written in your first post.

sunshiney · 25/02/2010 11:50

Sounds to me that deep down, you don't like them. But since when should that be an issue...! You are certainly a kind, considerate and dutiful daughter in law. They are the ones with the issue.

They are very rude to ring up and say they don't feel welcome in your home and list your perceived shortcomings to your husband.
He shouldn't have entertained the idea of listening to it, and told them if they don't want to come they should stay home!
He shouldn't be stuck in the middle, but if he is then it's up to him to extricate himself.

Don't let them upset you.

lovechoc · 25/02/2010 12:04

YANBU - when you're settling into parenthood you need your space and if that means telling people you don't want to have visitors then so be it. Your needs and the baby's needs come first.

They do sound somewhat selfish though, expecting you to just drop everything.

2010aQuintessentialOdyssey · 25/02/2010 12:07

No. Because no good will come out of it. They are never going to have any self insight, so whatever you say will be interpreted in a bad way, and you will be in the middle of a battle / stone silence before you know it.

Just leave them to it. They dont sound like the kind of people to have in your life, and at the end of the day, THEY will be losing out.

They are trying to manipulate you to try EVEN harder to please them. Dont fall for it.
And fgs dont apologize and ask them what you can do to make it better, you will be the family doormat sooner than you can say "ski".

Just write a note saying "I am sorry you have cancelled your stay at our home. Maybe one day we will have a bigger house you will be more comfortable in, or I wont have a tiny baby keeping me awake at night with breastfeeding and nappy changes, so hopefully we can resume visits in the future. Nothing would please me more than should you after all decide you are able to handle the shortcomings of our small home, and my lack of energey in the evening, and you are more than welcome"

Or something to that effect.

swanandduck · 25/02/2010 12:08

Seeing as they've brought it up, I would definitely ask them about this. Maybe there was one particular incident that they misinterpreted and read something in to? Rather than let a misunderstanding (if that's what it is) ruin your future relationship with them, I would see if it could be sorted out now.

traceybath · 25/02/2010 12:08

Wise words as always from Pagwatch.

zippyzapper · 25/02/2010 12:28

Wow I am a pretty rubbish dil compared to you - Pagwatch is very wise indeed.

Patsy99 · 25/02/2010 12:28

They sound really awful - but you're stuck with them. I doubt there'd be any long term benefit in having it out so I'd err on the side of peace. Either adopt the Pagwitch approach (I couldn't stomach it myself) or simply ignore what was said and carry on as you were. Your DH could speak to them and point out they're being unreasonable but unless something is said directly to you you're under no pressure to react or respond at all.

Certainly don't change your behaviour for them or become apologetic for looking after yourself. 10:30pm is late fgs with a newborn!

MaMight · 25/02/2010 12:39

Pag speaks sense.

JaneS · 25/02/2010 12:45

Do they actually know you did all the cards and emailing photos, or do they conveniently believe it's their son doing it?

I'm only asking because my ex's mum was perfectly capable of telling me, to my face, that her lovely son had sent her a birthday card and she wished I'd thought to do so, and I was thinking 'you dumb bint, that was me who picked it out and signed our names in it'.

Your inlaws sound like manipulative twits - why get in touch and tell you this now, when they've already planned to visit?

diddl · 25/02/2010 12:47

Well if they can´t see the difference between hiding away & recovering then they are twäts, and if your husband can´t be bothered to point it out to them then he is not much better imo.

And if they don´t feel welcome I´d tell them not to bother!

Veritythebrave · 25/02/2010 13:03

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GrendelsMum · 25/02/2010 13:11

Paggers has it, I think.

oldraver · 25/02/2010 13:15

I would spell out everything that you do.

IE.. "I'm rather tired and know I will be up with the baby in the night so I am going to bed now, Please dont think I am shunning you"

"I am just going to feed the baby upstairs as I can only comfortably feed lying down, Pleas dont think I am ignoring you.... etc etc

They may get the message

luluvalentine · 25/02/2010 13:21

YANBU - they sound like selfish twats so you will never be doing enough for them - tell them your house is not a hotel and your sole aim is not to run around after them.

I only meet people like that - ie those I feel I have to but dont really want to - for whatever reason, outside the home - that way I have an excuse to leave if it gets stressful, I dont worry about tidying up before or after, there is the added factor of being in the public eye for controlling spoilt behaviour - by the adults not the babies.

by the way I think I am a daughter in law from hell but frankly dont care.

VerityClinch · 25/02/2010 17:00

Other Verity - the more the merrier! I don't post much really, so we won't get mixed up.

Pag, I would really love to think your idea would work - and I have more or less done this a number of times before. We have them down, get them best seats in the house tickets to Phantom of the Opera because they want to see a proper London show, take them (via Christmas lights on Regent St and Bond St) to Automat for dinner afterwards - all while I am puking my guts up with morning/afternoon/evening sickness and would rather be lying in a dark room...

...and after they get home they call to say they don't know why DH calls them a cab (and pays for it) rather than driving them to the airport himself...

WHATEVER we do, it's not enough. I could do everything you suggest and, I don't know, it will be something like not enough pillows, or something.

I emailed the link to this to DH btw, and he would like me to point out that it's not that he wouldn't LIKE to cook, he's not ALLOWED to cook (which is true). The rest he pretty much seemed to agree with.

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HalfMumHalfBiscuit · 25/02/2010 17:58

yanbu

Just wanted to offer some support VC. Crap situation and sounds like nothing you do will be good enough. Unfortunately they are your kids grandparents so you sort of have to tolerate them on their behalf.

can you get them to take responsibility for anything?
e.g. ask them if they would like to help with food/baby/entertainment?

otherwise I agree with poster who said rise above it if you can.

have wriggly dd on knee so apols for typng

BigBadMummy · 25/02/2010 18:01

What a pair of cocks they are.

Print off this thread and post it to them.

Enough said

Oh except you sound lovely and don't let them get to you, sounds like you went to extraordinary lengths to welcome them last time, straight after having a baby. They should be proud of you.

mollyroger · 25/02/2010 18:10

I like Pag's modus operandus.
It is not passive aggressive, or inflammatory or martryd.

You sound very rational and not at all unreasonable, and FWIW, I am one of those people who needs 10 hours' sleep and even though my children are now 9 and 12, I am usually in bed by 10.30.

Lotster · 25/02/2010 18:48

You sound very nice, and like you make a lot of effort. They sound like selfish, irritating bastards!

Perhaps some comfort can be gained from the fact that they don't live just around the corner??

Good luck!

VerityClinch · 25/02/2010 20:30

You're all absolutely right, of course. I AM lovely.

OK, I am off to have a mull on this. I would like to say I am going to take the pag-approach but I'm not sure if I am that nice. And also not sure it will actually work.

I WILL BE BACK (Terminator Stylee) with an update after they have gone (and may also be on here in the small hours while they are here having a little cry/rant/hysterical non-sensical blather/word for word transcription of ever-escalating barney etc).

One thought to leave you with (not that I wish to bias you in any way, shape or form)... this MIL is the same MIL who told me "it's a shame you didn't get to give birth properly". Because I had a c-section. Which I had because I had grade 4 placenta praevia. Honestly, it's a wonder she's still alive to be causing so much fuss after she said that the the hormonally challenged sleep deprived post-partum me.

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EggyAllenPoe · 25/02/2010 20:40

no. you are not the aughter-in-law from hell

there are plenty of people on here which much greater claim on that title!

although i agree Pags solution is mature, and reasonable, i can't help but feel that that kind of approach will encourage them to walk all over you....

throwing your toys out of the pram can be the right solution when you deal with irrational people.
in this case, this would mean dictating your terms on a take-it-or-leave-it basis.

deste · 25/02/2010 20:43

You sound a very thoughtfull DIL and I cant see what you are doing wrong. Your PIL sound an absolute nightmare and not easily pleased. Are they from Aberdeen or have they moved there from somewhere else because I come from Aberdeen and I dont know many people who would not bend over backwards to fit in with others? I would have that talk with them and mention everything you have done for them. By the way what have they done for you?

cupcakesinthesnow · 25/02/2010 20:47

OMG I was hanging out to go to bed at 7-7.30pm every nght for the first 3/4 months after DS1 was born. There is no way I could stay up until 10.30pm for anyone. When we went to stay with dh's parents when ds1 was 2 nad 8 weeks old I took myself off to bed at 8pmish and breastfed queitly in bed for some 'me' time and my MIL wold come up and sit on the bloody bed chatting for hours.

YA SO NBU!