Porn

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Am I being unreasonable for getting upset that my husband keeps looking at porn?

I like lingerie but I don't have to shave off one of the signs of being a fully sexually mature woman to feel "sexy".

Pubic hair serves an important purpose in that it traps and holds the scent of pheremones, so by removing it you are actually removing a part of your sexiness.

Along with being a sign of pre-pubescence, it's also an effect of ageing, anyone in nursing or care will tell you that old ladies lose their pubes. I don't want to look like a little girl or an old granny!

I think Sean Connery is sexier than all of Take That put together. His hitting has got nothing to do with his sex appeal. He came third in Mr. Universe in 1953. We all have different tastes and shouldn't try to tell others what they should like or not.

This is what is so scary about porn nowadays. I remember shrieking with laughter at Madonna's Sex book when at school. God that looks tame now.

Was talking to DP about this thread - he said he found some of his dad's porn (on betamax lol) when he was a young teen, and he said it was more funny that erotic, a load of great bug fat blokes with hairy backs and their socks on, with women with spotty bums, all with ripe Bristolian accents.

He works in constrcution and it is prolific that young labourers have excrutiatingly hard core porn on their phones and pass it around like it's a joke. The fact that you can obtain stuff like double anal etc at the click of a button for free compared with it being so much harder to get hold of, that is what is so pernicious about porn.

Russell Crowe in Gladiator. Nuff said.

Personality has everything to do with sex appeal and attractivness imho.
I used to like Mel Gibson until he cheated on his wife of many years, now I can't stand the sight of him.

I couldn't find anyone who was cruel to animals or condoned any kind of violence in any way appealing.

agree with GetOrfMoiLand, it is now much more extreme than ever before and is all pervasive. That is why it is worrying.

OOh no Mel Gibson has always given me the creeps. It's all the violence in his films.

Bruce Willis in Die Hard. Based solely on the fact he runs about in a white vest and gets grubby.

Who said women's desire was more complex than a man's. Mine is very simple. Muscly bloke + not much clothes + a bit of sweat. Job done.

In talking to DP about the young lads who he works with - he says they act like they are playing some kind of porn top trumps. The more graphic the better.

And they go on plentyoffish.com and arrange to meet strange girls in car parks for a quickie at lunchtime.

These lads are in late teens/early 20s.

Brad Pitt in Troy

Russell Crowe in Gladiator

am sensing a theme here...

Does a shop exist that sells daft body armour for 47yo slightly portly men ?

Getorf - I work in a completely male environment and the stuff that goes on is AWFUL and shocking.

One of our apprentices (16 years old) had a mobile video of him having a threesome with 2 girls. 16. He was very proud to be showing this around to all and sundry until I reminded him that I am the same age as his mum, and if he can't show any respect to other women, he will fucking show it to me, by not bringing that filth into the office where I have to work.

If every curiosity you have ever had about sex, can be shown in graphic images with one click of your mouse, and then you're linked to another depravity and then another display of sex=NOTHING just rutting and hurting others, then where else can we expect our kids to end up?

GOML, then why doesn't he confront their appalling attitudes? Ask them how they would feel if it was their girlfriend/sister/mum?
Would they happily show their mum what was so amusing on the phone?

The only way of getting through to them is to bring it home on an emotional level, by making it something personal imho.

I once had an argument with a mum of a little girl, she was perfectly ok with her husband going to a sex show in Amsterdam on a stag do, when I asked her how he would feel in a few years time when their dd was grown up, for her to be such a performer, she called me "disgusting".
Until such people make the association between porn and their daughters, it's difficult to make them understand, especially young men.

I'm just pointing out that we're all different, I prefer some men to others, and you prefer some men to others. That's fine. None of us are the same. I tend to agree with you about Coco de Mer, I think it is an image that is being sold to women, and most of the gear on sale is actually meeting men's sexual desires. But I could be wrong, and if women want to buy it, I think that is OK. Also I think women do want to please men and vice versa, so it is not necessarily a bad thing.

< applauds WIA >

At ground level, this is what the relationships of our children are in danger of

All this theorising amounts to jackshit when you see what really happens out there...

now that 16 yo boy was showing off, has a skewed view about loving sex and it is completely obvious where he got it from

and I also despair about those 2 girls who let themselves be filmed doing that...or even thought it was an OK thing to do, at that tender stage of their lives

16...and filmed having a threesome...what happened to wanting a pony when you grow up ??

just sick, honestly...it makes me want to cry

in fact, I think I will

If a marauding army did to the women they encountered in the invaded country what is routinely done to women in mainstream porn it would be classified as a war crime.

I agree with AF and WIA in wanting to cry.

Or at least locking up dd until she is 30.

I was quite surprised when DP told me that. I have met some of these young lads he works with, they look all butter wouldn't melt.

DP (and his brother who he works with) do have a go at them to to the extent that you can, however these young lads DP (who is 47) as an old fart and I assume they just carry on with their mobile phone antics when not in front of DP.

So what can we do?

And I mean on a national level as well as a local/family level.