Porn

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Am I being unreasonable for getting upset that my husband keeps looking at porn?

It is ethically dubious to point out the exploitation within the porn industry if you are prepared to wear non-fair trade clothing or employ hired help from a poor country.

dittany, your banging on helps

getorf, I agree with every word you type (we mothers of 14 yo dd's have to stick together ... )

absinthe that is exactly what I meant by saying ignorance of sinister realities is seen everyday. If you shop for cheap clothes, I doubt all of you think about the people who suffered to make them. People who buy eggs that aren't free range, or discount meat. Plenty of people choose to ignore sinister reality.

Sophable, i wont ignore you! and i looked at the link.

Interesting link, as i said earlier i dont have a problem with porn, what concerns me is whether the women taking part do so through genuine choice and are not forced into through circumstances or impaired judgment.

Perhaps there is a middle ground?

oh, that makes it ok then MrsM

although tbh, I fail to make too much of a connection between farmed chicken and farmed people

Sophable, i read that in this porn, the women do it for pleasure, do they not get paid then?

But that is not the point. Everybody is saying that men are awful for watching porn because the porn industry controls women and is full of explotation. But that is a totally different issue from men watching it!

Men are not necessarily aware of the dark things that happen behind the scenes, but that doesn't make them bad for watching it. For me, yes the porn industry is very seedy, but that doesn't mean I think any less of my dH for watching it.

And most women are not forced into it, many may be doing it for the wrong reasons, but I imagine amongst the most of them, they make the choice.

Agree with most of what you type as well anyfucker!

Perhaps we should be joint poster called GetOrfAnyFucker

MrsM, by being forced into it, i mean through circumstances as oppose to arm up their back.

or FuckingGetOrfMoiLand

or GetOrfMyFuckingLand

or...

< slaps self >

Yes, I can see why that is sad and I don't doubt there are plenty of women who it is terribly sad for...the porn industry is no doubt the absolute epitomy of sleaze.

However, the thread started about whether it was bad for men to watch it, not the goings on of the porn industry. And that's all I have responded to.

I like watching porn, as does DH, and it turns me on knowing he likes those things! Yes, I must be depraved and women should cast me out for being so offensive. But I don't like it because of whatever may be going on the scenes, I like it because what you are actually seeing on the screen can be pretty hot!

But then again, I might be in the minority as some of my sexual choices are probably very different from a lot of yours. But that's all it is. Most men DO watch porn, but not for anything but pleasure!

lolol

GetOrfMoiFuckingLand it would have to be.

Cue requests to change name etc.

We can tell 'em all to fuck orf.

dittany I said I don't think men see it as a character flaw. I didn't actually say whether I did or didn't consider it to be a character flaw.

Maybe I set the bar too low when I got together with DH.....

actually, the thread was started by an individual who was asking if she was unreasonable for not wanting her husband to look at porn

the answer is no

porn is as old as man.

MrsM, i suppose if a man is unaware of what goes on in the porn industry, then it is not 'bad' to watch porn.

I wonder whether a man would find it quite as enjoyable knowing that the women on the screen, got into porn as a runaway teen to escape abuse, and that she isnt actually enjoying what she is doing?

Or do would they watch it on the off chance that this particular actress is strong secure women who just loves taking it up the arse?

claw i imagine that men, particuarly my dh wouldn't enjoy it if that was the case. But not all porn is necessarily a product of that.

Men are not all monsters, and the large majority of men do watch porn, they do. That's right, your Dad's, Brothers, Sons, Husbands...most of them will take some enjoyment for it. But not because they are sat there thinking it's good because of the terrible things the women have been through, but because they like sex and women.

And I, during sex, like to ahem...feel used. and my DH is often very reluctant and doesn't want to 'be mean'. So he does not necessarily want to act out everything on screen, otherwise he would gladly take advantage! I realise that may have been an overshare but just trying to get my point across

Mrsm, as i said i dont have a problem with porn (twice now, sorry for repeating!) or sex or nudity or consenting adults having sex or people watching them or whatever floats anyones boat etc, etc.

Porn isnt exactly a career choice and many young girls drift into it for the wrong reason and its not a genuine choice.

I doubt very much that many women enter the porn industry because they love having sex.

Maybe that's just because you were aware that those men liked it, and maybe they were disrespectful enough to shove it in your face. Decent men watch porn all the time, but maybe on the quiet! My best friend is male, and he is the sweetest person ever, a gentleman, very respectful to every woman he dates, and he watches it! Even the most decent of men do, they just don't all shout about it, and if they are not 'allowed' to watch it, they will probably still have the desire to.

Oh claw i agree with that, and I believe that too. But I also think it is a separate issue from men watching porn, and think that some of the judgments which have been made about men who do are quite unrealistic.

MrsM, perhaps the answer is educating men then or making making your own porn!

Nice chatting, must dash now, dinner to cook