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Wish that people on MN would stop being offended by everything.

99 replies

pigletmania · 20/02/2010 23:18

Gosh you cant say anything at all on here without people being offended by any little thing, so you end up walking on eggshells thinking is a post that you have just written on here going to offend anybody so you dont post just in case. Would people stop being so precious!

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Peaceflower · 21/02/2010 08:51

YANBU I have wanted to post something before and held back.

Ziggurat · 21/02/2010 10:07

But if no-one was getting offended and we were all agreeing, it would be dull as shit pretty boring in here, no?!

I agree - some people just loooove to get all worked up and righteously indignant, but that just makes it even funnier, I reckon.

To be honest, I find most people refreshingly honest on here and I like it. I post on other, much fluffier forums and find that I'm not really myself at all, for fear of saying something wrong.

I think MN could be far worse.

EdgarAllenSnow · 21/02/2010 13:36

you can go too far the other way. if people jus tget miffed, and post to say they are miffed, and explain why, fair enough...however it has got more to the point of not encouraging argumentative posting (which i heartily approve of) but discouraging it, for fear of being seen as insensitive (and to be fair, I'm not very sensitive, even when i try to be..) and indeed, for fear of having your post deleted or your thread pulled.

MillyR · 21/02/2010 13:49

Pigletmania, I was the person who said some of the gypsy comments were racist. I wasn't referring to your posts in particular, although I can see it might have felt that way as you were the OP.

I do think it is racist to say that because a certain person dresses a certain way then it means X about them (which you did not say, but others did). It doesn't mean X to them because they are in a different culture with different meanings about clothes. It is no different from a bunch of Victorians saying that people in grass skirts have loose morals and should put a corset on instead.

I can call people's remarks racist if I want. They should stop being so easily offended by the term 'racist.' How are we going to come to informed decisions about what we individually or collectively consider racist if we are never allowed to say when we think something is racist?

I refuse to walk on eggshells around people who don't like conversations about racism.

OrmRenewed · 21/02/2010 20:45

Oh I would agree with you, but someone would be offended

Heracles · 21/02/2010 20:54

Anyone using the term "the PC collective" has already lost the argument...

crankytwanky · 21/02/2010 20:58

YANBU.

The only thing that has made me consider flouncing is the holier-than-thou double-standards knee-jerkery that has abounded of late.

If only I wasn't so scared of the door hitting my arse on the way out...

Mumcentreplus · 21/02/2010 21:09

cranky

heQet · 21/02/2010 21:23

It's hard, isn't it? Who can decide what someone else can or cannot be offended by? What's silly and what's ok (to be offended by)? Who decides what's silly and what's ok?

If it doesn't offend ME then it's not offensive seems to be a common feeling, but that's not really on, is it?

Plenty of things don't offend me, but I can see that other people are upset by them and who am I to decide what other people feel?

So I think - anyone has the right to be offended by whatever they please, but if they are offended by someone else's opinion, then unless that opinion comes with malice, or is actually breaking a law (racism, disability discrimination etc etc) then it's just tough luck. You have to accept that some people hold views that are going to offend you. And you can argue your point, but they have as much right to their view as you do to yours.

and you can't delete views you don't like in RL, so I think it does no good to do it here.

Oh, and that deep dark sex secrets thread? I got as far as nevereatbrownsnow's revelation before I clicked away in shock! There you go - doesn't float your boat? Click away. Distinct advantage over RL

LeQueen · 21/02/2010 21:34

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tethersend · 21/02/2010 22:27

Well you would LeQueen. Typical of your sort.

LeQueen · 21/02/2010 22:44

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Mumcentreplus · 21/02/2010 23:23

Ahh LeQueen.. I knew i saw you in Advanced Judginess !..thought about becoming a professor of Judgementdom and extreme offence.. but decided to become a civil servant instead...

KerryMumbles · 21/02/2010 23:32

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Mumcentreplus · 21/02/2010 23:48

They do tho Kerry the thinker Mumbles..I dont get it either...

Tortington · 21/02/2010 23:54

can't be arsed reading all the thread but the two examples mentioned gypsy communities and OCD - are examples where even i would tread lightly.

you can't go around saying that a whole race of people look daft and not expect it to be a race issue you muppet!

and i read the OCD thread and whilst it isn't an issue which affects me, i realised it was important to the op that people not take the pis out of mental health issues - which again i think is fair comment.

total knobber examples piggy.

now, quite like kerry i call things how i see them (clearly) but even i have some decorum and down right common sense over some subjects.

claw3 · 22/02/2010 00:06

Big difference between being offended and censorship.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 22/02/2010 03:06

heracles, you are so right, the terms 'pc brigade' and 'pc collective' are bandied about the Daily Mail comments page like there's no tomorrow (err,allegedly).
Say no more.

Morloth · 22/02/2010 08:11

So, don't walk on eggshells, just be prepared to defend your statements. If you are not able to (or cannot) defend them then maybe you shouldn't say it?

Morloth · 22/02/2010 08:16

Having actually read the thread now, I will agree that there are people on here who need for all threads to be about them and are way to quick to take offence/share a sob story (usually only slightly related to thread topic) and have all the attention head their way.

gramercy · 22/02/2010 11:29

Agree.

And there seem to be the Professionally Offended who spend all their time wandering from thread to thread and then pouncing on some hapless poster in an almost triumphantly huffily manner.

And Morloth's right, too, about the narcissist posters. Someone posts about annoying fussy eaters, and in comes someone crying, "But they may have Fratiphylagixxis's syndrome! I have lived my WHOLE LIFE with this - how can you be so uncaring - walk a mile in my shoes...." blah de blah, oh god, yawn, now we all have to murmur sympathies.

nickytwotimes · 22/02/2010 11:36

AM also a bit at op being offended by other's offence.

And lol at piglet ever walking on eggshells here.

If you have an issue with someone else's offence, take it up with them.

Fwiw, I have learned a bit on here as to what might be deemed offensive. I used to use the 'nazi' thing (a la GOdwins Law) from itme to time until reading posts from those who find it offensive and I totally see now why it is.

mummycake · 22/02/2010 16:54

I must admit to feeling like this and it has put me off writing more threads, some people can be very insulting! Obviously I expect peoples opinions and I like hearing both sides of any sitation as they give me a more balanced less one-sided view but why do some people become so rude and offensive.

memoo · 22/02/2010 17:45

God, this thread is soooo offensive! I am seriously offended!

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