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to wonder why glaswegians cant say definately properly?

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littlemissfixit · 30/01/2010 22:36

why do they say defenently? its definately!! Does it make anyone else cringe when they here it? When i here a weegie say it, my whole body shudders!

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AitchTwoOhOneOh · 01/02/2010 13:46

massive links between scotland and netherlands historically, my mother had been reading up on it recently, apparently the whole scottish court hung out there...

Historical alliances

It's said that the first people from the Low Countries to settle in Scotland came in the wake of Mathilda's marriage to the Scottish king, David I, during the Dark Ages. Craftsmen and tradesmen followed courtiers and in later centuries a brisk trade grew up between our two nations: Scotland's primary goods (wool, hides, salmon and then coal) in exchange for the luxuries obtainable in the Netherlands, one of the major hubs of European trade.

By 1600, trading colonies had grown up on either side of the well-travelled shipping routes: the Dutch settling along the eastern seaboard of Scotland; the Scots congregating first in Campvere ? where they were allowed to land their goods duty free and run their own affairs ? and then Rotterdam, where Scottish and Dutch Calvinism coexisted comfortably. Besides the thousands of local descendants with Scots ancestry, both ports still show signs of these early alliances. Now a museum, 'The Scots House' in Vere was the only place outside Scotland where Scots Law was practised. In Rotterdam, meanwhile, the doors of The Scots International Church have remained wide open ever since 1643.

When they weren't trading with each other, the Scots and Dutch were taking up arms together against a common enemy ? whoever that might be. Over 300 years ago, Scots mercenaries joined William of Orange in an invasion of Great Britain. 60 years ago, thousands of Scots were involved in the liberation of Holland. And only this June, the Dutch Navy were exercising in Scottish waters during NATO manoeuvres.
Exchange of ideas

The two countries traded in ideas as well as goods during these formative years. Scottish students in search of a professional education in Law or Medicine made a beeline for Leiden near Rotterdam. Among the most noteworthy was Sir Robert Sibbald, the first Professor of Physics at Edinburgh University. Returning from Leiden, he went on to create Edinburgh's Botanical Garden, based on a Dutch model. Years later, Edinburgh's world famous Medical Faculty was founded and staffed exclusively by Leiden graduates. Even Edinburgh's Royal Infirmary was based on a Leiden hospital and, in the world of finance, The Bank of Scotland followed the eminent example set by The Bank of Amsterdam.

The trade in ideas was two-way. Within the realm of philosophy, in particular, Scots made a major contribution. William MacDowell helped to found the University of Groningen in 1614, and no fewer than five Scots taught the subject at Leiden during the seventeenth century.

HelloThisIsJoanie · 01/02/2010 13:47

iw ant to know why on the bbc they haev started saying GLAZ gow
not glarsgow

AitchTwoOhOneOh · 01/02/2010 13:47

perhaps because it's pronounced glazgow in glasgow?

HelloThisIsJoanie · 01/02/2010 13:48

but we dont have short as in poshland

AitchTwoOhOneOh · 01/02/2010 13:58

you've lost me, joanie.

HelloThisIsJoanie · 01/02/2010 13:58

well me saying glazgow is like me saying baff with a short a

sounds odd

AitchTwoOhOneOh · 01/02/2010 14:02

sounds odd, spells odd, looks odd. you're a well-kent fraek.

littlemissfixit · 01/02/2010 14:36

anyone say cuddie backs? (piggy backs) when i said that to my dp he gave a look

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mawbroon · 01/02/2010 15:39

Kiddy backs where I'm from.

queenofeastsheen · 01/02/2010 15:41

Does Wellington still have the cone on his head? On a good day I remember his horse would have one on too!

I love:
messages
pieces
bawbag
clatty
doll
hen
'it's baltic'
nippy sweety
sweety wife
poke of chips
square sausage

queenofeastsheen · 01/02/2010 15:45

also:
macaroni pies
drying greens&closes
pan loaf
the puggies
skelfs

FimBOW · 01/02/2010 15:52

My dh puked on a puggie machine when he was a student.

I had to recite The Sair Finger for a Burns competition.

I used to live in a flat with a pletty.

GentleOtter · 01/02/2010 15:56

Has anyone mentioned 'pus' as in "He got a right smack on the pus"

I've heard it in Dundee....

FimBOW · 01/02/2010 15:58

Oh yes. Freaky - I was just thinking a minute ago about someone I would dearly love to punch in the pus.

mawbroon · 01/02/2010 16:00

Yes, or "shut yer pus" meaning do be quiet please.

FimBOW · 01/02/2010 16:13

Or if something is a nuisance or pain in the neck it is a right pus aye (can't think how else to write it without it looking like pussy)

SweetestThing · 01/02/2010 16:15

Plain loaf and pan loaf
My mum used to talk about "the coup" as an area of open land.
Dookits
cuddy
Dreepying doon a wa' when you were wee
Skelf instead of splinter
Slept in
Messages
Piece instead of sandwich
filthy dirty
oxters
breeks
semmit for vest

Oh, they're all coming back to me now after reading this brilliant thread!

Paolosgirl · 01/02/2010 18:24

Yep, Wellington regularly has a cone on his head.

It was koalie backs when I was young - there were a lot of phrases that my weegie parents used to say when I was young and living in Tiny Village on the River in Kent that used to make me want to curl up and die. Anything that sets you apart when you are 10 is Not Good.

The thing that used to make me really go was my mum's inability to say Carl without pronouncing it Carol - she worked in the school, and Carl and his mates used to have a real go at me for it. Poor lad

pointydog · 01/02/2010 19:09

we were chatting at work the other week about 'fud'. Now there's a good word. No sniggering at the back.

hormonesnomore · 01/02/2010 19:32

Yes - fud

Yes - messages, cuddy backs, cundies, pieces and pan loafs

YES, YES, YES - mealy puddings - I found some in Farmfoods in the midlands once, along with bridies and lorne sausage.

Paolosgirl · 01/02/2010 19:47

You can't say fud

That's a swearie word!

pointydog · 01/02/2010 20:03

Isn't it a great one though

Cicatrice · 01/02/2010 20:18

I like

ganzie
sark
semmit
breeks
sheen

I can dress DS without saying anything DH recognises as a word!

GentleOtter · 01/02/2010 20:19

Lol at big dozent fud

pebbles79 · 01/02/2010 20:22

I got laughed at once on a forum for calling the ends of the bread the 'outsiders'! I thought everyone called them that!

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