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to wish dh wouldn't refuse to wipe a snotty nose or change a dirty nappy

68 replies

washedandreadytoeat · 28/01/2010 13:19

every once in a while? Or help with the housework occasionally?

Have namechanged for this as somewhat embarassed...

There are a lot of similar threads knocking about at the moment, but thought I'd start this fresh one to show dh.

I am currently a SAHM though going back to work part time soon. DH works full time, very busy stressful job, almost three hours commute each day. He leaves around 7:30 am and returns around 7:30pm. DS is 16 months old, very spirited and lively. Usually happy, but needs my attention all the time - cant even go to the toilet without him. Currently teething, hardly eating, wanting to breastfeed all the time. Never slept through the night, has only recently started doing 3 hour stretches before midnight, but still wakes several times between midnight and 5am.

I dont need a lot of sleep, but waking up so often during the night does make me grumpy and tired during the day, which is not nice for ds either. Still DH does not do any housework during the week at all, and hardly any at the weekends. At weekends he sometimes prepares breakfast or dinner, will do the odd nappychange (as long as it is not a pooey one), a bit of hoovering (if we expect visitors) and other bits and bobs. All in all not much - by his own admission he is very lazy during the weekends as needs to recover from work.

He tells me I've got it easy; being at home all day, meeting with mums having coffee and gossping all the time... well yes, I do love looking after ds, and we do go to playdates a lot, which of course does involve coffee too. But looking after a toddler can be bloody exhausting too. None of the other mums are real friends that I would socialise with if it werent for ds. Since having ds I have been out by myself for perhaps four or five times. The last time when I had to have root canal treatment - and guess what! I looked forward to it and thoroughly enjoyed every second of it.

Have I mentioned DS gets up by 5am every morning? I get up with him so DH can sleep until 7pm. Usually I am then greeted by a huge pile of dirty dishes from the previous night when I would have been too tired to do any washing up (we dont have a dishwasher).

Most days I am just fine, ds and I have a lot of fun together and somehow I get most of the housework done too. But every now and then it gets too much, I get tearful, grumpy and whingey. Thought at some point I was developing depression, but GP said it was just exhaustion. DH, though temporarily sympathetic, hasnt really offered any additional help since then. He just thinks I am quite pathetic sometimes, turning into my own mother, and -even worse- comparing my "performance" to that of his own mum who apparently coped bloody amazingly with her two boys and kept the house impeccably clean and tidy.

The other night I had a bad evening - ds had thrown food everywhere, I was tired and, well, in a bit of a state. All DH was interested in was when dinner would be served. We ended up having a big row, and in the end he did apologise, sort of.

I could go on forever but you get my gist (thanks for reading if you have made it this far!).

Am I being unfair on DH? His job IS very demanding, he is knackered when he gets home in the evening and he DOES need a lot of sleep to function. He does also do a lot of other things that dont fall into the housework category, e.g. researching holidays. He is wonderful with DS, we do a lot of fun family activities together, although so far he has not once proactively offered to take him somewhere by himself, e.g. playground.

So, aibu to expect a little more sometimes? Also, we are ttc - am I mad??

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notnowbernard · 28/01/2010 13:22

He is obvioulsly v busy and naturally you are the one who is going to end up doing most of the domestic stuff as you are there more than he is

BUT

He needs to change his general attitude, it sounds rather shitty tbh

lal123 · 28/01/2010 13:26

I'm at home on maty leave at the minute, DP works full time - with similar hours to your DP. When he gets home from work we share the childcare 50/50 and at weekends he'll tend to do more tidying than me - and gives me a chance for a nap. I think that looking after children is a full time job in itself, whether you're looking after them at home or at a playdate. Your kids are both of your responsibilities, being a Dad is more than just earning the money! There are days when I wish I was the one at work and not at home with the kids - it would be less work!!

Blackduck · 28/01/2010 13:26

I'd go out and leave him for the day with the children.....
Yes, he works hard, but they're his children too...

washedandreadytoeat · 28/01/2010 13:27

youre right notnowbernhard, and I dont mind doing most of the housework at all. It would just be nice if he did a little bit as well. Even if it is just token stuff so I dont feel like a complete fool.

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Cyb · 28/01/2010 13:29

At least take it it turns to get up early at the weekend. Thats what we used to do with our perrenial early wakers.

My dh has said to me on more than one occcasion he goes to work to get a rest...and I tend to agree with him

notnowbernard · 28/01/2010 13:30

I would expect a lie-in on either the Sat or Sun

Definintely more involvement with the nappies/feeding etc of DS at the weekends

A washing-up effort at least once during the week

AND NO NAGGING ABOUT MEALS ETC - this would do my head in the most, tbh - remind him you are his lover, not his Mother

Jamieandhismagictorch · 28/01/2010 13:31

YANBU

He has never done what you do, so how does he know what it's like ?

Whereas you have done a full-time job before, so you know what that is like.

If you are not to become depressed (been there) then things need to change. Your DH is not emotionally supporting you (SAHMs need an injection of emotional support so they can be the emotional buffer for all the toddler stuff that will come your way soon). Denigrating what you do, and not spending time with your son on his own, is NOT supportive.

I would bugger off for a morning every weekend. Your DH gets down-time from his job, so you need it too.

EleanoraBuntingCupcake · 28/01/2010 13:35

get a cleaner and make sure he looks after your child for 2 hours on a weekend day. either takes her out or you disappear.

Jamieandhismagictorch · 28/01/2010 13:36

Could you afford a cleaner. Or would DH slag you off for wanting one ?

Pannacotta · 28/01/2010 13:37

My DH has similar tendencies but we have worked out some kind of arrangement.

I make sure I have lie-ins at the weekend and regularly go off on my own for a couple of hours on Sat or Sunday.
Even though he doesnt clean he does do the weekly shop and cook several times a week.

Your DH is being lazy and unsupportive, and you need to make sure your needs are being met. Bringing up kids is relentless and unglamourous (as well as being fun) and you need some time out and back up from him.

Jamieandhismagictorch · 28/01/2010 13:37

X post with Eleanora !

Jamieandhismagictorch · 28/01/2010 13:40

Oh, and not changing pooey nappies - is that down to job stress ?

(can you tell I'm on your behalf ?)

expatinscotland · 28/01/2010 13:41

'Am I being unfair on DH?'

What's unfair and sad is that so many women even pose this question about the utter twonks they've procreated with.

At the very least I'd ditch him with the kid for a day.

I'd just LEAVE.

If he can't afford to hire out his share of the work, then he certainly wouldn't be using me as an unpaid skivvy.

Next time he said I had it easy, I'd find a nanny agency and show him their pricing schedule.

So he could see how much it costs to hire out.

washedandreadytoeat · 28/01/2010 13:42

Jamie we could afford a cleaner but dh doesnt think it is necessary and a waste of money. I may well insist on this (or rather just hire one anyway).

Actually, DH will come with us to do the weekly shop so thats another one in his favour I guess! So far he has not offered to do this on his own though.

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washedandreadytoeat · 28/01/2010 13:44

We have discussed each spending a half day at the weekend by ourselves. We may end up doing this occasionally. But if we do this every weekend, we end up only having one day together as a family :-(

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notnowbernard · 28/01/2010 13:44

If you can afford a cleaner, hire one. Seriously. Will he REALLY go into one about it or just be a bit sulky?

expatinscotland · 28/01/2010 13:47

Fuck him if he goes into one about hiring a cleaner! He does NO housework.

And I'd tell him, too, if his mother's so great, he's welcome to go and live with her.

ESPECIALLY as you're going back to work.

washedandreadytoeat · 28/01/2010 13:47

Actually I think it just boils down to one thing - the feeling of being taken for granted and not appreciated. If that feeling was not there everything else would sort itself out somehow.

I am a bit of a feminist (not the bra burning kind) and feel like I am letting myself down by slipping into this housewife role. I have looked after ds full time because I believe that is what is best for him, not because I dont want to work. I have had to accept a demotion in return for the part time job I will be returning too, and that grinds a bit as well I guess!

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mazzystartled · 28/01/2010 13:47

I would be grumpy and whingey too

Get a dishwasher
Tell him what you can realistically manage in terms of domestic goddessry and if he wants the house tidier/dinner fancier, ask him what he suggests - a cleaner? or him mucking in?
Tell DH, in a calm mood, that you need regular time to yourself and time alone with him, and ask him how he suggests that gets to happen too

It is unrealistic, selfish and downright unreasonable for him to expect to do NOTHING to look after himself or his child

Jamieandhismagictorch · 28/01/2010 13:49

Does your DH dislike his job ?

expatinscotland · 28/01/2010 13:50

I'd go back to work.

I can't wait to get DD2 in school so I can then put DS in full-time nursery and go back to work.

Xenia's right, money is power.

ThursdayNext · 28/01/2010 13:50

It sounds like he has no idea what looking after children is like. If he never does it (sole charge, I mean), then he won't.
He needs some experience of this. I didn't understand it either until I had children. I think it's difficult to understand how you are constantly responsible for a small, vulnerable person, so you are always busy, even if it looks like you're just having a coffee.
How about having a full day out one day at the weekend, leaving ds with dh?

VinegarTits · 28/01/2010 13:51

A man who wont do his fair share of housework and parenting is NOT a man imo, he sound very selfish with fuckwitted attitude tbh

Jamieandhismagictorch · 28/01/2010 13:52

expat - sadly, you are right. Not all men think like this (my DH is bloody marvellous) but .......

mazzystartled · 28/01/2010 13:53

He'll come with you on the weekly shop???
Whoop-de-fricking-dooo
Do it online and get it delivered, you'll have more time at weekends.

A cleaner is a good idea, with the caveat that in my experience it leads to D or not-so-DHs thinking they can do even less.

And if you are going back to work I think this is the perfect opportunity for you both to sit down and work out how you want things to be.