aquaintance is frauduntly claiming benefits..... aibu to want to shop her

[ratherstayanno]

I cant say its a friend. Its more of an aquaintance. She is also 'sort of friendly' with someone else i know.

She was seperated from her husband. They both had seperate houses. He would go to hers everyday to help look after their DD, she would walk his dog and her dog. They weekly go dancing and socialise together.

Shes alwasys saying how skint she is, cant afford nursery, shopping in farm foods and car boots. End of last year and all of a sudden she is going on a 3 week holiday to america. With him.
Bit odd i thought, but then i hear they are back together. Apparently he stays everynight, but just takes a carrier bag of stuff. They both still have their own ( mortgaged) houses.
She is still claming single persons tax credits. I know this for a fact.
He has just brought her a new car and they have booked 2 holidays before june this year.

She was invited, with her child to a recent fundrasing event. She asked if she could bring her husband along.

This is relevent as shes not hiding the fac they are back togther, but is still openingly claiming tax credits for single person.

It sort of bothers me. But i dont know if i should actually do anything about it or not.

ok - before I launch in can some of the sane people on the thread answer a few questions for me

1. Has someone explained that you can be married and legally claim as single? (hell you can even be living in the same house and claiming legitimately as a single person)

1. has it kicked off yet?

Surely if he has booked the holiday, bought the car etc etc it's nothing to do with the tax credits - I mean you know you are allowed to accept gifts off people when you're single you know

I second what StrictlyKatty says

oh and just to clear something up

Tax Credits don't come under the "Benefits" pot

see here so if you did want to shop them don't bother ringing the DWP number.........as they don't deal with it

ALFA

you're still wearing your xmas name - it is freaking me out

We're getting a jolly good tongue lashing at the moment, so in answer to your point number 2 - yes. It has all kicked off. and in answer to your first point? The OP doesn't want any logic or FACTS brought into this thing FGS.

sorry knives (who are you????

oh goody I like a good tongue lashing,

op doesn't want any logic or facts - oh............

well nothing new there then

I'm usually WhoIsAsking, I don't think you'd know me anyway!

Just you wait, so far I've been told to piss off, grow up (about 3 times) that I'm a crude Jeremy Kyle fan that obviously moves in shitty social circles and that I'm a tax credit cheat.

I feel dirty

aha - no I have seen the name around before - don't think we've met too many times before - but hey - it's a big old place

ooooo all this name calling sounds like fun - I'm up for thread about something that won't turn me into a gibbering wreck (combination of threads the other night on various subjects left me in a right dither ). Tell me KFS - are you a dirty benefits scrounger (the real benefits that only those that don't work get ) or just a TC claimant?? >

Ok, I've read through now.

OP, it seems that some of the frustration is with your assumption that this woman is a cheat based on snippets of conversations. You don't actually know for sure, yet have passed judgement and decided that she is fiddling the system.

I think there is a level of discomfort with your decision to inform authorities based on this flippant and selective information. You do not know the whole story yet are prepared to make this woman's life (and that of her family) uncomfortable.

I had to hide 2 threads yesterday - which isn't like me at all!

I'm a stinking TC claimant. Feel free to ignore me from now on.

you are absolutely right please accept my heartfeltapologies

knotty.

Its not assumption. Its what she herself has told me. over 'snippets' of conversations that i have to edure for several hours a week.

I only know what she is telling me, but that is enough for me not to feel happy about it. It is not up to me to say if she is or isnt abusing a system, but i think that it probably is my responsibility to do inform the correct people so it can be looked into.

knives and your gang.
Really, how old are you lot? You have called me names, you have thrown insults and are now just treaing this like a rather fun catfight. It is pathetic. You are suposed to be grown up women.

Im leaving the thread now as i cannot be bothered to waste any more of my time on this pointlessness.

knotty.

Its not assumption. Its what she herself has told me. over 'snippets' of conversations that i have to edure for several hours a week.

I only know what she is telling me, but that is enough for me not to feel happy about it. It is not up to me to say if she is or isnt abusing a system, but i think that it probably is my responsibility to do inform the correct people so it can be looked into.

knives and your gang.
Really, how old are you lot? You have called me names, you have thrown insults and are now just treaing this like a rather fun catfight. It is pathetic. You are suposed to be grown up women.

Im leaving the thread now as i cannot be bothered to waste any more of my time on this pointlessness.

oh that's even more exciting then - you got called all those names just think what names I could get called - I'm an absolutely honking proper benefits claimant...........who may even start claiming as a single parent while still living in the marital home with her husband (as until the divorce is sorted he's still legally my husband). Haven't quite decided on that one yet though as I'm not sure I cba completelly resorting the house finances just for (hopefully) a few months.

Mind you after that I will be claiming as a single parent (no WTC, just CTC and those horrible stinky benefits from the DWP ) while still legally married !

I'm guessing I'm classed in the "gang" - if so - I'd like you to show me where I called you any names?

(oh and for the record I'm 30...........edging scarily closer to the 31 though)

sorry to see you go especially as you were being so reasonable

and we're supposed to take it seriously when you don't even know that you can claim legitmately as a single parent while still being married? I bet you can't believe it at ALL that you can claim as a single parent while living in the same house as them can you

now if you're excuse me ladies - I just need to go and harvest my Blackberries on Farmville - and then I suppose I ought to throw some water in a pot to cook the rice for dinner.

She's not getting it is she?

AWAS - hey there, I am 31!

yes, i know you can claim while being legally married, if you are seperated. If you are having to live in the same house while things are being sorted, even if you are seperated and living in different houses.

THEY ARE NOT SEPERATED ANY MORE. They are together as any other married couple. Herein is where my problem lies.

I am not stupid.

awassiling - ive nothing aganist people claiming benefits AT ALL. Ive said i work with families in deprived areas. Part of my job is helping said families access what they are entitled to.

I do, howver have a problem with people lieing and bragging about it.

31..... wow, shocking. Thats the same age as me, except you seem to act like your 13. wow.

i keep wondering if this is really your motivation?

By ratherstayanno Fri 22-Jan-10 17:05:18

Im leaving the thread now as i cannot be bothered to waste any more of my time on this pointlessness.

Er, well no, it's everyone else's time you've wasted. What exactly was the point in starting the thread if you had already decided to report her? Do you start threads before doing everything in life you'd already planned on doing? ("AIBU to finish off my coffee then go for a shit?")

"Its not assumption. Its what she herself has told me. over 'snippets' of conversations that i have to edure for several hours a week."

You don't have to endure her though! Just a thought op, but why don't YOU grow up and have the balls to tell her you don't want to speak to her instead of letting her believe you're friendly and then sneakily reporting her. Sounds like entrapment!

ronaldmcdonald

yes, thats my motivation.

Sod the legalities, sod the sheer moralness of it all.

im just jealous that she is clever enough outsmart the system and get away with it....

James.
Do you not have a 'friend' who you really dont like and activley try to avoid. Most people i know have one, and before you get in and say its me. its not! lol. Contrary to what you think, im a very nice person and could not be so cold to say to someone, please just piss off dear, i dont really like you.

Of course, i could always take a leaf out of the 'mean girls' on this thread... ( looks back on posts for helpful tips)

I hadnt already decided to report her. This thread made up my mind for me. It was the sheer opposition that made me realise why this country is in the shit it is in.

ahh well I guess you must have learned something mid thread then - as at 1.30 this afternoon you didn't seem to think it was possible

James

"("AIBU to finish off my coffee then go for a shit?")"

OMG - how did you know I was about to start that very thread !!!!

oh and op - sorry to take the shine off your insults (they're a bit pathetic your digs at me there - come on sure you can do better than that) but I don't live in a deprived area.

and ermmm no I'm not 31