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aquaintance is frauduntly claiming benefits..... aibu to want to shop her

193 replies

ratherstayanno · 22/01/2010 13:20

I cant say its a friend. Its more of an aquaintance. She is also 'sort of friendly' with someone else i know.

She was seperated from her husband. They both had seperate houses. He would go to hers everyday to help look after their DD, she would walk his dog and her dog. They weekly go dancing and socialise together.

Shes alwasys saying how skint she is, cant afford nursery, shopping in farm foods and car boots. End of last year and all of a sudden she is going on a 3 week holiday to america. With him.
Bit odd i thought, but then i hear they are back together. Apparently he stays everynight, but just takes a carrier bag of stuff. They both still have their own ( mortgaged) houses.
She is still claming single persons tax credits. I know this for a fact.
He has just brought her a new car and they have booked 2 holidays before june this year.

She was invited, with her child to a recent fundrasing event. She asked if she could bring her husband along.

This is relevent as shes not hiding the fac they are back togther, but is still openingly claiming tax credits for single person.

It sort of bothers me. But i dont know if i should actually do anything about it or not.

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ratherstayanno · 22/01/2010 14:55

knives - why so crude. This is a serious thread. A serious question adn you are trying to turn it all ' jeremy kyle'.

grow up

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PSCMUM · 22/01/2010 14:58

i don't think you should tell - she is clearly on a low income and needs the tiny bit of extra money this gives her, so goodluck to her.

IF I knew anyone was cheating their TAXES though, I'd be the first in line to tell on them - but who to tell? THey don't seem to have the same 'WE'RE CLOSING IN ON YOU' menacing posters about people who cheat their taxes, even though they are much more likely to be rich people and the amounts they are cheating public services out of are a great deal more significant than Mrs BEnefit Cheat with her extra £20 a week.

KnivesForksSpoons · 22/01/2010 15:01

hahaha. I'm trying to turn it all what? You're the one painting this woman as some kind of criminal genius, and you're the wonderwoman who is going to save the government from her evil misdoings (of living on her own, while having a boyfriend sleep over - the horror)

Oh, and you already told me to "grow up" once, get another insult darling, that one is starting to look a bit tired.

GypsyMoth · 22/01/2010 15:03

strictlykatty......please enlighten me,but who pays extra???

TiggyR · 22/01/2010 15:03

OP, in my experience of reading threads like this you could say she is claiming disability allowance for a gammy leg whilst understudying for Darcy Bussell/Usain Bolt, claiming housing benefit on all of her four council properties, all under different names, all sub-let at great profit, drives a Mercedes, employs housekeeper and has three identities on her credit cards, and still be told to butt out, because you don't know her individual circumstances, and it's none of your business. You do realise, don't you, that you are small-minded spiteful busybody?

Morloth · 22/01/2010 15:04

It's because nobody likes a dobber.

ratherstayanno · 22/01/2010 15:09

kvives - its not her boyfriend. Its her bloody husband.

sorry that im not too hot on the insults. I cant say that ive had a lot of practice nor need for them. You are a lot better at them than me. Clearly we move in very different social circles.

Tiggy. Im not a busybody. I would be if i was sneaking about spying on her. but she has told me this information herself. I did not ask for it. It is wrong and i didnt know what to do about it. Ive never been in this position before.

TBH im frankly shocked at peoples acceptance of fraud.

But i expect they are the same people that complain the nhs doesn have enough money, or schools etc... if the govt wasnt loosing so much money to fraduent claims maybe it could be put to use in other, much needed areas.

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ratherstayanno · 22/01/2010 15:11

' nobody likes a dobber'

well, yes, beacuse we are all 7 arent we.

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ratherstayanno · 22/01/2010 15:12

would it be ok to 'dob' someone in for stabbing someone
or
burglary
or
mugging
or
child abuse.

using your theory, no.... because, 'nobody likes a dobber'

!!

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PureAsTheColdDrivenSnow · 22/01/2010 15:12

So... OP. What are you going to do then?

midori1999 · 22/01/2010 15:12

Would you honestly feel the same way about her 'fraud' if she wa sliving on the bread line with barely a penny to spare or clothe her child?!

I doubt it, since you felt the need to mention her new car and holidays booked in your OP.

KnivesForksSpoons · 22/01/2010 15:13

Haha, not bad. Pointing out your lofty social status is a pretty good insult. Better than "grow up"....

Oh, shit, you used that in your next post! Never mind.

What difference does it make if it's her husband? You still haven't answered the point made by PP about the fact that they are running TWO separate households.

Just run along and do your thing. You're not going to change your mind, and neither am I.

TiggyR · 22/01/2010 15:14

OP, The busybody thing...read my post again!

StrictlyKatty · 22/01/2010 15:16

tiffany clearly if people did not commit benefit fraud then the amount the tax payer had to contribute towards benefits would go down.

Therefore the fact that people con the system means that everyone pays extra tax to cover the money wasted by fraud. It really very simple.

ratherstayanno · 22/01/2010 15:18

midori - why are you using fraud in brackets.
It is actually fraud you know. it is stealing something that should not be hers.

Maybe if she was on the breadline she might not be gloating about it quite so much. I dont know. That wsnt the question was it.

Knives. you are very angry and defensive arent you. Maybe this is a subject a little close to home.

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PureAsTheColdDrivenSnow · 22/01/2010 15:18

OP - Note: Please bear in mind that this topic encourages posters to give their opinions - i.e. they might disagree with you.

Don't bloody post if you want everybody to agree with you!

ratherstayanno · 22/01/2010 15:19

tiggy - oh, i get you.

Never going to win. lol

Katty. That is right, people just dont see it do they.

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midori1999 · 22/01/2010 15:26

I use the word 'fraud' in inverted commas because it hasn't actually been legally proven in that is it fraud has it?! That is an assumption you have made, based on information she gave you, which may, or may not be true. For all you know, this woman is miserable beyond the depths of all belief and indulges in talking fantasy with some woman she sees on her dog walks becaus eall her real friends would know she was bullshitting...

I was actually getting tax credits when I met my now husband. I actually rang the help line when he began staying over frequently to make sure I wasn't breaking any rules, and it seems the rules on this aren't exactly clear. There was no 'number of nights' where they would definitely consider it fraud.

Yes, fraud is fraud, an dit is wrong and it is stealing. I think people would feel abit better about things if they felt that the reasons you wanted to report this woman were moral ones and not out of spite or bitterness.

midori1999 · 22/01/2010 15:27

I use the word 'fraud' in inverted commas because it hasn't actually been legally proven in that is it fraud has it?! That is an assumption you have made, based on information she gave you, which may, or may not be true. For all you know, this woman is miserable beyond the depths of all belief and indulges in talking fantasy with some woman she sees on her dog walks becaus eall her real friends would know she was bullshitting...

I was actually getting tax credits when I met my now husband. I actually rang the help line when he began staying over frequently to make sure I wasn't breaking any rules, and it seems the rules on this aren't exactly clear. There was no 'number of nights' where they would definitely consider it fraud.

Yes, fraud is fraud, and it is wrong and it is stealing. I think people would feel abit better about things if they felt that the reasons you wanted to report this woman were moral ones and not out of spite or bitterness.

KnivesForksSpoons · 22/01/2010 15:27

Oh not at all OP. I work for a living and do quite well thanks for asking.

I'm not angry at all. After all it's only the internet. YOU seem to be getting dreadfully cross though.

ratherstayanno · 22/01/2010 15:31

lol - dreadfully cross.

knives, your insults are getting most posh!

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KnivesForksSpoons · 22/01/2010 15:32

Bizarre.

KnottyLocks · 22/01/2010 15:47

Knives Forks Spoons

RonaldMcDonald · 22/01/2010 15:54

op

ratherstayanno · 22/01/2010 16:18

so apparently, im dreadfully cross.... and so it is ok to post stupid cartoons about me.

Really petty.

I thougth more of mumsnet. I thought there were intelligent women on here. Argue with me if you want, but resorting to name calling and pictures is really very juvenile.

midi - how and quite frankly, why do i need to prove im not doing it out of spite and bitterness. Im not, but i dont see what that has got to do with it. ITS STILL STEALING.

someone who committs a mugging cant get away with it by saying that they did it while thinking about pink fluffy bunnies can they.

Madness - total madness.

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