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to talk to the parents of the children bullying my child? I feel really crap now...

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breakingpoint · 20/01/2010 13:57

Yesterday dh found out that ds2 (6) was being picked on by 2 boys in his year. He along with two friends were being taunted (sp?)called names etc. He was crying had his hand over his ears and did not want to go to school, it took dh quite a while to get him to talk. As I knew the parents of the boys (not particularly well but well enough to have had a night out with them) I said I would talk to them rather than go into school. First I spoke to one othe the other friends parents and asked if their ds had said anything, they said they hadn't but that made sense as ds had been crying and not wanting to come to school but wound not say why. The third child was off school ill for the second day, a bit of an assumption I know but I thought it might be to do with being picked on. The peices seemed to fit so I had a word with the bullys parents and I thought it went well, I took the first parent aside and told her being carefull to play it down and not use the word bullying, she brought him over got me to tell him off and got him to say sorry. She then went back to the group she was stood with and pointed out the other childs dad and with me told him. He brought child over had a word and got him to appologise. I got my ds to accept appology and shake hands and it was left at that.

This morning I was rounded on by both Mum's saying that they were confused by what was going on as they had both given their children a real telling off last nigh but both children were denying it. They had spoken to someone not involved's child who knew nothing about anything happening. They had spoken to the Mum of the one that had been off ill and found out he had not said anything, I confirmed I had spoken to her last night and she had said her ds had said nothing. They had also spoken to the other child that did not want to go to school and where saying that her ds had not named names (I never said he did). One of the mums had a go at me for using the word bullying saying it was a strong wrod and there children where denying it, I said I said picked on she said you said bullying the whole group heard. I know for sure when I approached her I used picked on as I was being very carefull as I hate this type of confrontation. I vaugely think I may of said bullying later on after she used the word but I can't be sure of what was said. I feel totally ganged up on on they are pretty much demamding more info, for me to find out what happened etc. I have spoken to dh and he is not happy for the subject to be brought up with ds unless he himself brings it up again.

I am now questioning myself and have been dwelling on it all day unable to think of anything else, I am dreading going to pick ds's up and seeing the group all stood there talking about it. I didn't expect this, I can't help thinking I should of just let the school deal with it, but though appraoching the parents would be better for everyone.

I know I am overlly sensitive, worn out etc at the moment. We are 3 months into our first foster placement and it is so much harder more draining etc. than I could of ever imagined and I did something stupid last night that could of spoiled a good friends suprise for another good friend, totaly by accident and that friend is not cross with me (or at least I don't think so!), but it all makes me feel more crap about what I do.

Please help give me some perspective and let me know what do and say to minimise this mess.

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breakingpoint · 20/01/2010 14:47

I am feeling so pathetic and on the verge of tears now that I don't think I can talk to them again and hold it together. If it had been poeple I don't know I wouldn't of dared talk to them.

Thanks, I think maybe I will go and talk to the teacher and explain what has happened, see if she knows any more. I am guessing that my ds's friend that is not wanting to go to school will eventually say something and then it will all be brought up again. If the parents have a go at me for going to the teacher I can at least now say I did come to them first.

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happymatleave · 20/01/2010 14:49

try not to worry, it will blow over.

breakingpoint · 20/01/2010 14:50

Time to go and deal with the fall out - I feel physically sick .

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CirrhosisByTheSea · 20/01/2010 14:51

If as adults we don't confide in the teachers and ask for their help in this situation, how will the children learn the appropriate way to deal with bullying in school?

teachers are now well used to dealing with bullying and know how to deal with it without breathing a word about who mentioned it or whatever.

you do need to go via the school. They will deal with it dispassionately, objectively and professionally, none of which you have (though clearly with the best intentions) IMO dealing with it personally is very unlikely to end well, as you've already found.

chocolateorange · 20/01/2010 14:56

you poor thing, it's awful isn't it. you did what you did for the very best reasons and it's so important for you ds to see that you're taking this seriously and that unkindness towards him is not on.

im waffling and too have to get up to the school but i just wanted to wish you well, be strong. your son is all that matters here, not the other mothers and their hurt feelings - they'll get over it.

neenz · 20/01/2010 15:03

Breakingpoint, I hope it all went well at school.

You have done what you thought was best and were not being unreasonable in trying to sort out a bullying situation. Anyone would want to do the same to protect their own kids.

Just get clear in your own mind why you did what you did and if someone confronts you about the situation just explain the reasons why. Not everyone will agree with how you tackled it but I am sure they will understand the reasons for it.

Those parents were in the wrong for making their DCs apologise before finding out their side of the story. That's not your fault.

In a week or two it will all have blown over so try to focus on that.

Keep your head held high and don't beat yourself up over your friend's surprise either. Everyone makes mistakes, nobody's perfect!

ageing5yearseachyear · 20/01/2010 15:26

i say good for you. you tried to sort this out by talking to the parents directly and tbh they should be grateful for this. lets face it- their kids then had a whole day to talk it over and think up something to say.

if anybody tries to continue this, literally say "i thought it best to tell you first, because that is what i would want in these circumstances. I can see that this didnt work so now i have told the school just so they can keep an eye on it.

any say nothing else- do not apologise or explain further-

GrumpyWhenWoken · 20/01/2010 15:38

You did what you thought was the right thing to do, and were brave to tackle the parents IMO.

I think it's probably better to go through the school initially though, in case it's an ongoing sitation. The school schould have some kind of bullying policy in place which they can implement if they are aware of it.

That way the other parents get talked to by a teacher, not you, and it's the school's responsibility to sort out.

I think you should go and talk to the teacher and explain what's happened so they can keep an eye out for any future bullying.

Bucharest · 20/01/2010 16:15

Hope it goes/went well breakingpoint. Let us know when you get back. I'm sure you'll feel better having broached it with the teacher(s).

breakingpoint · 20/01/2010 16:17

I have spoken to ds's friend and he has confirmed that it is happening, but does not seem upset about it himself so I guess he is upset about something else. I then took ds into the school, his teacher was not in, she was off on a course so I spoke to his last years teacher, she probably knows him better anyway as his teacher has only been there to cover maternatiy leave from this term. Anyway, I explained the situation then she talked about it with ds and was lovely and said she will bring the boys in to talk to them and get them to say sorry and that I should go in and seen her after school to find out what happened. Hopefully that will be enough to ensure it does not happen any more and ds seems happy with it.

I think the parents side of things is going to be harder. The whole time I was there the parents kept stareing at me and giving me looks, it has obviously spread around their friendship circle and so there is now a whole load of them doing it, including people I thought were good friends, which is a shame. The mum's of the boys that ds also said where being picked on were very suprised by how they were jumped on and questioned this morning and are now feeling rather unsettled by it as well.

I dred to think what will happen when the ds's come out of school tomorrow night having been spoken to by the teachers.

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Bucharest · 20/01/2010 16:25

Bullies beget bullies. It's to be expected, and it's unfortunately human nature that parents find out their child is a bully and hurtle first into denial, then into passive-aggression.
Rise above it.
Glad the teacher was nice, and hopefully your son will feel better about going to school now, and that's the main thing. You only have to see these people in the schoolyard, your son has to spend all day with them!
Hope you are feeling better too now.

castlesintheair · 20/01/2010 16:26

Well done bp. It sound's like the school will deal with it now. Leave it in their hands but speak to them regularly for updates until you are happy it has stopped completely.

As for the other parents, it's probably not as bad as you think. Anyway, as someone said earlier, this kind of behaviour should be brought to their attention (no doubt the teacher will speak to the offenders' parents) so they can (you would hope) do something about it at home.

junglist1 · 20/01/2010 16:29

The other parents probably sense your nervousness and are thriving on it. Be confident. If they're staring, stare back. Even if you don't feel brave, pretend. God, I hate people who bully in crowds. They are sissies who wouldn't say boo to you without their gang behind them it's pathetic.

cocolepew · 20/01/2010 16:34

Talking to the parents always goes tits up, nobody wants to believe their child is a bully. I would always go straight to the teacher.

breakingpoint · 20/01/2010 16:37

Thank you, talking to the teacher did help.

Ds deff feels better, he is at his friends house tonight so that has taken his mind off it. I feel a little stronger right now but that could be because I am safely tucked up at home and don't have to face them again tonight .

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sb6699 · 20/01/2010 16:40

Agree with junglist, you need to brazen it out. You havent done anything wrong and that's the message you have to send out.

It really grates me that these parents have taken it as gospel that their children have done nothing wrong. Surely, they realise that most children when they realise they are in trouble will, at first, deny all knowledge.

I worry about how these children will act when they are older if their parents are not able to accept responsibility for teaching their child right from wrong. EVERYONES children do things that arent right, parents need to acknowledge this and deal with it rather than deny that their precious child just couldnt have put a foot wrong.

Sorry for the rant, my ds has been in a similar situation with the parents denying anything happened and wouldnt do anything about it.

troublewithtalk · 20/01/2010 16:55

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breakingpoint · 20/01/2010 17:34

Having to photograph bruises to be belived that is awfull, I really hope the school sorts this out for you quickly.

I know what you mean about the parents ganging up as that is exactly what is happening. It makes the friendships look so superfical. A few months back one of the group was sat on my sofa hugging me as I went through the realisation that I had been pregnant and was now misscarrying (ectopic). Yet today she won't make eye contact and turns her back on me. It's so pathetic it makes me cross (I should hold on to that feeling when I see them next!).

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junglist1 · 20/01/2010 17:37

Yeah hold on to the feeling good idea. They are nothing but sheep.

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YoMoJo · 20/01/2010 18:25

This is exactly why when things happen at school, the school should be the one to deal with it, not the parents!

breakingpoint · 21/01/2010 16:13

Quick update - The teacher spoke to the boys and they again denied it but then went on to admit it saying they had forgotten! I have heard nothing from the parents yet but I guess that will come tomorrow if/when they find out the school has spoken to the their kids. I guess there are three options a. they don't find out and it continues as is b. they find out and are embarassed so it continues as is or c. they find out and appologise. Still nervous about facing them but at least now I can walk down there knowing for sure what was happening between the kids and that it has hopefully now stopped.

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neenz · 21/01/2010 16:22

BP, just stay strong. It will all be forgotten about in a few weeks - they will have found someone else to gang up on! They will probably find out you were right all along but still be arsey because they will be embarrassed. Just ignore them, they will soon stop if they think it is not bothering you (it is just like school bullies!)

porcamiseria · 21/01/2010 16:27

I really feel for you, and I think you did the best you could. Many people say that schools dont always help, so whilst it may have backfired your intentions were OK. I am just trying to imagine how I would react if someone accused my child of bullying. TBH I would take them very very seriously, however of course the parties involved are mere babies....

So dont feel bad, please, and stay firm but polite as you have done.

And yes, best to take it to the school now.

In parallel, what can you do for DS to build his confidence? I think about this alot, and think that when my one is old enough I am sending him to sports/martial arts. I went to a tough state school, and lets face it, its a bloody battlefield. I also remeber getting "beaten up" when I was only 6 years old too. Little fuckers

good luck, and I really hope that this will blow over for you

prettybird · 21/01/2010 16:30

It is always best to do it via the school - at least givem them chance to dela with it.

Ds went through a phase of being bullied by one of his "friends" (under the influence of another boy). Even though we were friends with his parents, we never disucssed it with them (only mentioned it a year or so later) but ook it up straght away with the school who were brilliant.

The depute head is not a lady to be trifled with!

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