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Men - a meal ticket for life?

429 replies

marantha · 14/01/2010 10:05

Reading the amount of abuse the poster Washwithcare has received here over the past few days for suggesting that her husband does not offer more money to his ex-partner (not NOT married, no contract signed) and her (not biologically HIS) children it strikes me that feminism doesn't really exist- or only exists when it suits women.
Women are still baby machines that try to get as much money off a man as they can, when the chips are down.
AIBU?

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ChickensLoveMarmite · 14/01/2010 10:46

Not getting this. Didn't the man in question want to take care of his children? It was WWC that was throwing her toys out of the pram wasn't it? So, are you saying that WWC saw her DH as a meal ticket, and resented the ex's children being supported? A person who can walk out on a family and not care whether they starve would be a cold bastard not worth wanting, wouldn't they?

marantha · 14/01/2010 10:47

By the way, this topic is not about women who actually earn their own money.

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MissWooWoo · 14/01/2010 10:48

"You want to have your cake and eat it, ladies. Human nature I suppose"

you sound like you have no idea at all about anything

what an incredibly lazy thing to say

now back off to the Daily Mail with you - shoo!

ImSoNotTelling · 14/01/2010 10:48

The person who goes out to work is compenstated. By means of a mechanism called "being paid".

ObsidianBlackbirdMcNight · 14/01/2010 10:50

So women who don't earn their own money are lazy and money grabbing - but on the other hand they are far luckier and better off than men who have to go to work?

Wow - you don't like women very much, do you?

marantha · 14/01/2010 10:50

ChickensLoveMarmite who in 21st century Britain has to starve?
The ex sees her ex-partner as a meal ticket for life yet few have criticised the ex for her apparent laziness. They have only criticised WWC.

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MadameOvary · 14/01/2010 10:51

Thanks for clearing that up OP

chandellina · 14/01/2010 10:51

for better or worse women ARE baby machines so that will always affect our economic status.

ObsidianBlackbirdMcNight · 14/01/2010 10:51

WashWithCare was a TROLL

chandellina · 14/01/2010 10:52

i don't know, she's posting about her nanny's work habits and all sorts of minutae elsewhere.

marantha · 14/01/2010 10:52

I'mSoNotTelling So the stay at home parent ISN'T paid?! Yes they are- they get free food, gas and electric paid for by the working parent.

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MadameOvary · 14/01/2010 10:53

Her apparent laziness.
Got it in one OP
Why should we criticise when we dont know the full story?
Or is that ok because you're doing it?

marantha · 14/01/2010 10:53

chandellina A rare piece of unhypocritical honesty. Thank you.

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marantha · 14/01/2010 10:55

In MN world, it would appear that the gas,food and electricity fairies pay the household bills.

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moonsquirter · 14/01/2010 10:55

Two issues (in fact probably more) that people seem to confuse every time this is raised. A responsibility lies on BOTH parents to support children. Step-parents who have taken on the role of parent to any degree ought also to feel morally responsible. WWC's DH is doing exactly the right thing for those kids as far as I could see.
However, the situation with an ex (wife or husband) is far more complicated and depends not just on whether there are kids involved, but also of decisions that were taken jointly when in the relationship. The obvious example is woman giving up career, being SAHM/housewife for many years, but I'm sure there are many more. In that situation, yes, the woman should be supported by the man for some time until she is able to get to a position of being able to support herself. Ideally to the standard which she would have reached had the joint decision not been taken, but if the resources aren't there, then the separated couple will have to find a way of sharing the financial pain between them. Circumstances change, deal with it!
Unfortunately, there are women who will not even take steps to try to support themselves. I realise for some this is a scary move after a time out of the job market, and childcare issues may also add difficulties, but independence should be everyone's goal after a split (kids being a separate issue), albeit that it may take some time to achieve.
As a working mother, who has been a single mother supporting a child with NO contribution from my ex, it does nark me when I see women that won't step out of their comfort zone in order to do their bit, and expect life to carry on in the same way as before - but generally I take the view that all situations are so different that nobody can judge without all the facts.

How's that for sitting on the fence?!

MadameOvary · 14/01/2010 10:55

Bored with this
So obviously a wind up
Bye

ChickensLoveMarmite · 14/01/2010 10:55

I love this emoticon

Morloth · 14/01/2010 10:56

Women eh? Wanting to see that their kids are fed and clothed and cared for by the man who helped make them? Total cows the lot of them.

Besides I am the meal ticket around here, piss me off and there will be no more meals.

ChickensLoveMarmite · 14/01/2010 10:58

I am indeed a cow

MissWooWoo · 14/01/2010 10:59

and the working parent is getting "free" child care in the least, sometimes more .... a "free" cleaner, a "free" cook etc.

There is so much more to a partnership and raising a family than "bring home the bacon". It's important and vital but so too is looking after the kids.

Morloth · 14/01/2010 11:00

Chickens you don't need the wallet, just ensure joint accounts and credit cards. You are doing it the hard way. Much easier to fleece a man if you have total control of all of his money.

WhoIsAsking · 14/01/2010 11:00

Nice try. I wonder why you enjoy stirring it all up so much. You've got form on making outrageous comments and then standing by them with ever more offensive posts.

I think the was invented just for you.

ObsidianBlackbirdMcNight · 14/01/2010 11:00

One wonders what marantha thinks a family should look like. Both parents working full time and the DCs in childcare? Why, though, if the parents don't want to do that and don't have to?

Iklboo · 14/01/2010 11:01

Chickens - always marry a man witha forgeable signature. 'Tis child's play after that to fleece him

Morloth · 14/01/2010 11:01

MissWooWoo are you implying that men actually want to have children? I thought it was only women who wanted children? Who would have thought it!?

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