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to think that people are unaware how desperate things are for birds?

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PhaseolusLunatus · 08/01/2010 15:56

The RSPB are saying that food and water we provide can be the difference between life and death for garden birds at the moment.

Advice here about what you may already have in the house that could help.

They also need water to drink, and, just as importantly, bathe and perform 'feather maintenance.'

There is also a thread about this in chat, but I don't imagine anyone minds a bit more bumping of this topic.

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piscesmoon · 08/01/2010 22:58

They are getting very hungry as they are getting fairly aggressive with each other.

TeddyBare · 08/01/2010 23:00

Where can I get proper bird seed from? I'm going to Cardiff tomorrow and don't have a car. Does anyone know of any shops in / fairly close to Cardiff which sell bird food?

callmeovercautious · 08/01/2010 23:11

Teddybare - the thing is - they know where the normal food sources are. However in this weather they will be looking everywhere. So yes once a few find it the others will follow.

Once you start don't stop until Spring as they will come to rely on it. Once Summer comes they will desert you like ungrateful teenagers as the insects in the fields are much tastier

Butterfly99 · 08/01/2010 23:13

I don't know about Cardiff in paricular, but I found bird seed, nuts and fat balls in our local medium sized tesco today (with the pet food). I noticed waitrose had bird seed too but it was really expensive! Other than that, garden centres and local markets often sell it. HTHs

TeddyBare · 08/01/2010 23:16

Do you need to have a proper bird feeder to feed seeds or does it work to just sprinkle them on a plate?

newgaelgirl · 08/01/2010 23:17

Ever since my cat caught a blackbird two weeks ago, I have kept them both IN THE House. It's really not so hard to do - a box of litter and they're totally cool about it specially at the moment. I think the birds are so desperate they are slow and also low on the ground a lot.
I want to start a movement - KEEP YOUR CAT INDOORS esp in deep winter like this, and also in spring when the chicks are starting to emerge from the nests.
I chuck some food up high on the garage roof so they can stay high and feed. Mini apple pies are good for crumbling.

newgaelgirl · 08/01/2010 23:19

Just keep your cat inside for a week or two!

PrammyMammy · 08/01/2010 23:29

There are 4 big grouse, (think that's what they are called, the whiskey birds) in my garden almost daily and i've never seen them before ever. We feed them bread, potatoes, apples, sprouts, everything!

OurLadyOfPerpetualSupper · 08/01/2010 23:44

Good idea to keep the food high up if you can - think I'll use the top of our playhouse.

3littlefrogs · 08/01/2010 23:48

Don't put food on the ground though. I am really hoping this cold weather will alleviate the problem caused by the huge increase in the rat population in london.

maryz · 08/01/2010 23:50

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PhaseolusLunatus · 08/01/2010 23:50

Poppity - they will be so hungry they might be tempted now.

TeddyBare - we usually just have fat balls, and feeders with different seeds in. At the moment I think they are grateful for anything they can get, and scraps are great. And I would think that seeds on a plate is definitely better than no seeds at all, and well worth a try. As far as I know bringing food in at night shouldn't confuse things.

spookycharlotte - is there a bit of path you could clear or flatten out so the food doesn't sink?

Suggestions from the RSPB site:

Home-made devices

Half coconuts and tit bells filled with fat, bird cake, etc can be hung from your bird table, a tree or from a bracket on a wall. They will attract greenfinches, house sparrows and tits.

Other ideas

Fill the holes and cracks of a post or suspended log with fatty food, such as suet, for agile birds, such as tits, nuthatches, woodpeckers, treecreepers and even wrens.

Thrushes and dunnocks prefer to feed on the ground. For these birds, scatter food on the lawn or use a ground feeding tray or hopper well clear of cover to avoid lurking cats. Remember to change the area you scatter the food over every few days, and never put out more than is eaten the same day to avoid attracting vermin.

If you put food such as apples and bread on the ground, space it out in different places in the garden. This will reduce competition between birds so that more birds can feed at any one time. If there is snow on the ground, clear small areas before putting down the food.

Hope that helps!

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Poppity · 08/01/2010 23:57

Thanks, just realised I have some mince pies left too- I can crumble those up for them can't I?

Have lots of other bits too, including seed, but wasn't sure about the mince?

PhaseolusLunatus · 09/01/2010 00:05

I can't see what could be wrong with a mince pie or two, Poppity

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TeddyBare · 09/01/2010 08:00

Just wanted to share this. I put out a jumble of things I could find that were on the list of scraps birds can eat at about 7. Since I came in there have been birds in my garden. I threw in a bit of German rye bread because it was sat on the side and looked a bit like it might be bird friendly and they seem to love this. Does anyone know if I might actually be accidentally making them ill? I think they look quite happy but then it's quite difficult to tell.

bramblebooks · 09/01/2010 08:30

We've been putting extra feed out - the birds also like to help the chickens with their scratch feed of corn so I 'accidentally' spill extra for them when the chickens are cooped up. It's grim out there.
I've bought a couple of hanging feeders too.

My chickens start and end the day with porridge made with oats, warm water, mealworms and peas!

bramblebooks · 09/01/2010 08:32

we've also been making treats with the frying pan fat after sausages - pouring it into a cake case full of seeds. You can do the same with seed and melted lard.

We were very country living and dipped a pine cone in lard then flicked seeds at it. This is now hung up in a tree for them.

Longtalljosie · 09/01/2010 09:03

Right - have just put out a mix of muesli, chopped up date and cheese.

Will they find it though? I put it on the roof below our bedroom so the cat wouldn't get them - but it all just sort of sank into the snow

roisin · 09/01/2010 09:33

FuriousGeorge - how much glycerine do you put in? Is it just a teaspoon per pint or something?

Do put out food regularly in the same place. Not many birds might find it the first day, but gradually more and more of them will come to use it.

When we first put up a new feeding station we hardly ever saw any birds on it at all for several days. Now, it's in pretty much constant use!

Guimauve · 09/01/2010 09:52

I've got some rice cooking now for them, to cool and put out later, just been and bought another bag of oats, sultanas soaking to plump them a little bit, and they can have some grated cheese too. Sadly the shop has no bags of birdseed though.

morningpaper · 09/01/2010 09:55

Oooh I like this thread

I am going to buy bird seed today

morningpaper · 09/01/2010 09:55

I turned over my compost bin this morning to let the birds have a go at the worms - without seconds two robins were scrabbling over it

addictedtomn · 09/01/2010 09:58

i've just put out some of that cake you buy at christmas, yuo know the one in the funny shaped boxes raisons and stuff, is that any good for them? they are eating it up, but i dont want to put out lots more if its not good for them

addictedtomn · 09/01/2010 09:58

i think its called panatone?

elsiepiddock · 09/01/2010 10:01

Have just sent my dh out to buy more bird food. We're actually getting birds I have never seen here before like Reed Buntings and Redwings.

We have also got 12 (!) pheasants that moved in over a year ago. They eat so much!

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