WOMEN would you STOP posing in your underwear?

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If it's your JOB i.e. pg 3 girl fair enough (different argument) but Rachel Weisz, Hannah Groves, Sadie Frost et al what EXACTLY do you think you are achieving? What is the point? I JUST DON'T GET IT. Why is the 'sex object' the highest accolade a women can apparently be granted in the 21st Century. This isn't about looking good or taking care of yourself it's about FLAUNTING YOUR BOOBS why???? why do you want people to know what type of wax job you have?

I know this is an age old discussion but taking your clothes off and posing for magazines seems to be even more prevalent in January, also I'm stuck indoors.

I agree. Saddoes the lot of them. Seems far worse now than in the seventies.

(flings back her dressing gown to see whether her wax job is upto date)

Actors (IME) tend to need approbation/attention, ANY approbation/attention from ANYBODY - it's how they're wired. Even more so for gurning sublebrities with no talent.

Not saying it makes it right, just saying that by and large they are total idiots who would lie down on the fast lane of the M1 if it meant someone would put them on the front page.

Well, it's nice that they feel comfortable enough with themselves to be happy to pose like that and it's their bodies. so up to them if they wish to do that (all power to them etc) BUT, yes, I agree. It does make me sigh and do the rolling eyes thing a lot when they do it. I don't exactly lose respect for them, but there does seem to be little point to it apart from pandering to the sexual fantasies of the masses.

Kirsty Thingy from CBBC/SMart did an interesting programme about it last year I think. About how it seems to be the rite of passage for a lot of young female actors (particularly those in kids TV). They have to pose in a lads mag in their underwear in order to be taken seriously and get adult roles...

It has a bad effect on little girls. My daughter, 11, asked me if there was really any point in worrying about having a serious job if you could just marry someone rich, like, groan, a footballer. I think she thinks that if you wear sexy clothes a premier league guy will marry you.

She is at a highly selective girls-only school and I am hoping that they will help drive that particular idea out of her head.

YES! and on the same note, I wish Beyonce/Britney etc would put it away!!! They are both beautiful and talented women, why do they have to constantly be half naked in their videos?

I have absolutely nothing against a bit of flesh, but why do they have to be in their underwear for nearly every video?

And Shakira in She Wolf. was there any point in her wearing clothes?

Also does anyone think that Hannah Waterman actually looked better before? I think she looks too think now, and Poor Ricky Groves.

And Shakira in She Wolf. was there any point in her wearing clothes?

Also does anyone think that Hannah Waterman actually looked better before? I think she looks too thin now, and Poor Ricky Groves.

YANBU.

Empowering my arse.

abra1d That's awful - as you say, at that type of school you'd hope they'd all be striving for something better than fake tits/hair/nails/skin-tone.

I notices that the Daily Mail (amongst other newspapers I am sure, it is just where I go for gossip) seem to have an awful lot of the 'Sexy noname obscure sleb shows off her fab new figure after losing xx lbs' stories at the moment.

Is it because of the NY? Are we all obsessed with our weight at the moment?

Agree 100% but they are incredibly needy on the whole and can't help themselves.

For most of the ones that do it, it's the only way they can get attention. OK, Rachel Weisz is a proper actress and celebrity. But Sadie Frost? Used to be married to Jude Law and did a wee bit of acting, who cares. Hannah Waterman - was in Eastenders, was fat now thin, who cares? They are getting paid for it, and getting attention that otherwise no one would give them

We should do a stealth campaign, go round all magazine sellers armed with pritt stick and pictures of clothes. That'll learn 'em. Hussies.

stayfrosty, you sound fab
we were a little sloany at our school so the height of fashion was a turned up stripy shirt under a round neck jumper, but generally pretty fully attired.
If we wore short skirts, always with thick tights and a big jumper
Don't get me started on pole dancing as an exercise routine fgs

The way teenage girls try to look now is like mini miss worlds circa 1975 which was hugely naff among my contemporaries as teenagers.It is weird that this perfect plastic is what they aspire to

We're nearly at the tipping point where it will go back to being about looking individual, wild hair colour, lots of layers etc. These things do go backwards and forwards so there is some fair hope that when the current crop of DDs (all the primary age ones) hit their teens, it will be fashionable to be properly feisty and self-aware again (and the townie version will probably be 'mumsy' fashion like the appalling early-80s pleated pastel tartans and Princess Died pie-crust collars).

StayFrosty, armpit hair doesn't exist anymore. It has been erased.

When I was in my 20's in the '80's, it was a badge of honour to have armpit hair if you were the trendy leftie, middle-class type. French women didn't think twice about raising an arm and revealing their fuzz and they were really sexy. Now, even other women gasp in horror at hairy pits and god forbid you ever let your legs or bikini line get out of hand.

I wonder if the NUTS generation lads mags have helped create this airbrushed version of womanhood?

If my body was half as great as theirs, I wouldn't just be posing for photos in my underwear, I'd be going to the supermarket wearing nowt but my skimpies...

It's like a new lower level of "celebrity"...you have film stars and tv stars, musicians, then you have the people who are now famous for being constantly in relaity shows, when they say "from dancing on ice" after someone's name (!)...now you have people who are simply famous these days for being fat then thin, fat then thin and selling the stories...wow, what an achievement!

ooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....

You are talking about celebrities.... I was thinking 'but I am not posing.... I never have.... far too cold anyway... I would just end up poking someones eye out with extrememly pointy nipples...'

Celebrities don't count do they? They have rules of their own.... 'Slong as you all aint walking around in your underwear I dont mind

... and it is all bloody photoshopped. THIS should be compulsory viewing imo. It should be on between programmes on the Disney channel, cbbc etc.

It's scary isn't it.
I have a very beautiful friend who is so insecure. She takes hours to get ready, even to go to the shops. She always talks about diets and counts calories. If you saw her in the street, she has lots of foundation, lots of dark eye make up, almost white mid back length hair, straightened to perfection. Dressed in almost always new clothes. (we are the same size and she gives me bags of lovely stuff all the time, last seasons)
Then if you stop round too early and catch her before the uniform is on, she is beautiful, she has a short wavy bob naturally, as her outside hair is all extensions. She has a rosy completion and is so pretty. But no one gets to see that. I don't know for sure, but media must have something to do with it.