To write to Nestle

[PrammyMammy]

and plead with them to make Creamola Foam?

I can taste it now, and really fancy some. Every few months or so i crave it, raspberry flavour.
Does anyone know why it isn't around any more? Wasn't it really popular?

This is a link to own-brand cereals that have a Nestle connection. Not sure how up to date it is.

Apologies if already been linked to!

Buying water is nuts anyway, and best to be avoided for environmental reasons before you even get into Nestle etc.

The water companies are all private though aren't they and probably invest some of their money in unethical funds, not to mention the pension funds and where they are invested.

When you really start to think about it, you can't really do anything anymore, which is why I often stop thinking about it... that's global capitalism for you.

Thanks hocus that is a big help.

Several years ago a baker in Kirkwall found the last unopened tin of creamola foam while renovating his shop and was trying to negotiate with a sweet firm to get it remade but i dont think anything ever came of it?
scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/childrensdiet/Foam-alone-last-tin-holds.2798579.jp

Cadburys has been under threat of acquisition for the last few months. Kraft, Hershey & Nestle have all been named and there was a point where it seemed Hershey & Nestle might cook up a deal together. It is a horrendous state of affairs when you think how successful Cadburys is. Of course there is a big public campaign based around the factory in Bournville in Birmingham but no-one really seems to care that much...

Well it is premier foods i will have to write to, not nestle, so don't worry. I didn't know all that about nestle anyway.
What i do know is... creamola foam was yum, it reminds me of my nan for some reason, and i would love some right now mmm.

Where Nestle stopped others took over so the boycott made no difference other than to make people feel they were doing something.

It would probably have done more good to educate people and encourage them to think for themselves since Nestle didn't force anyone to have their products.

There was an online petition a while ago to bring back cremola foam, I remember I signed it around the same time as the one for wispa.

I'd buy some if they brought it back!

When I look out of my window I can see a large Nestle factory, it's about 500yards from where I live. I was hoping to get a job there. All this has given me something to think about. I need a job though, badly.

I have instinctively avoided Nestle for years (offering someone a fruit pastille at my yooni was social death in the early 1990s).

Recently realised that they are still up to their old tricks (and then some) and my embargo is back on.

DH emerged from the kitchen the other month with a Walnut Whip and I went bananas. In his defense, he claimed he didn't realise it was Nestle when he bought it. But he certainly knows now...

"Nestle didn't force anyone to have their products."

Misinformed health visitors and midwives in this country don't force people to feed their babies formula either but a lot of people do so unnecessarily on their advice.

Imagine medical staff even more persuasive (as they have been marketed to, heavily) and sales people dressed as medical staff in a country with high rates of illiteracy, where pregnancy, birth and early infancy is a very dangerous time - forcing people to put more trust in those medical staff.

I think we forget how lucky we are in this country

And to be honest I don't really boycott nestle myself that strictly, if I have a choice between items and one is nestle I will choose the other but I don't go round the supermarket with a list of their brands etc and I have been known to buy cheerios etc (maybe one day when I feel a bit more sorted I will do it properly) - I just think that people should be aware of these things before making their decision.

I have also eased up on my nestle boycott, I hadn't realised they were still up to their nefarious deeds.

Interestingly (or perhaps not) when I used to be a market researcher about 13/14 years ago I had to do some research on people's opinions on Nestle. Not one person I interviewed in the provincial backwater I was living in had heard any bad publicity about Nestle.

brandybutterflyeffect - did your school begin with an M? I knew quite a few people there but all a fair bit older than you

I hadn't heard of all this before I looked at this thread. Well I had heard some people boycott them but never know why.

I agree that what Nestle did misinforming women in 3rd world countries was terrible. No doubt there. But I WILL NOT be boycotting them. It is a choice we make for ourselves and I think any is BU by saying another MN is BU by not boycotting them.

What I said about not wanting to give up my midnight fav. choccies was tongue in cheek. Having had a look at the two lists of products Nestle earns money from then i would basically have to change most thing si buy. For some reason I seem to buy LOADS of nestle stuff. I'm quite shocked, how odd. Some examples..

I am really fussy about food. I have tried loads of varieties of everything over the years but can only find certain things I like. Some things I "could" change but it's pointless unless I change everything, which is just not possible.

1. The only breakfast cereals I can eat are made by Nestle.

1. The only coffee I drink is Nestle.

1. All my makeup is L'oreal, I do not use/like any others.

1. All my hair products and dd's are Loreal or Garnier, they are the only I like.

1. I buy most bath stuff/smellies from Bodyshop.

1. Ski yougarts are one of only 2 that I like. Dd has munch bunch ones too sometimes.

1. Cat eats Felix, my mums cat refuses to eat anything else and will go starving rather than eat another type.

1. The choc we eat is all Nestle - apart from Malteasers - this I agree can be changed, but I like my treats and so if I don't eat Nestle treats I won't really eat any at all. (will do wonders for my waist).

1. Buitoni filled pasta is delicious and i can't imagine not eating it. (don't give it to dd usually though).

10. I do loads of cooking and have always made a famous Bannoffe pie. I make 3/4 at once for family and friends. The only nice condensed milk is Carnation, ie. Nestle. Other brands are vile. SO I have to not make these cakes. Sounds petty but this is something I love doing and have always done.

I know each point alone doesn't seem alot to anyone, but altogther they do make for a pretty drastic life change in order to boycott Nestle, not just a simply thing of buying an alternative choccie.

As for child labour - well just google the list of global companies that have been reported to use child labour. If I boycotted them all I would have to be loaded to buy UK only products. We'd find it hard to buy most things without using these global companies. Hats of to you if you do it but it's just not realistic for most of us.

Judge me all you like and call me unreasonable if you wish, I have my reasons. I do not support what Nestle have done but unless they sell off their products or rival companies make similar ones it's not feasable for me to boycott.

I totally agree with you Hando i really do, i will not be boycotting them officially but will try my best to stay away from them and not buy them myself. If i was bought Nestle products as gifts i would use them because its waste and it was given with good intentions, its rude to give them back. I do love jellytots and would every now and again have them, but yes its about making an informed decision armed with the right information. like the bf/formula discussion really! If i boycotted every company that has links to child slavery etc it would severly limit what i can buy and as i am on a budget to i could not personally afford it.

Ethically sourced fair trade products can be more expensive and buying designer does not guratnett that child labour is not involved so you are between a rock and a hard place really.

Hando, if you want to give your money to a global conglomerate that has actively particapated in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of infants because you like the taste of their food, that is entirely your own decision.

The thing is people should not be made to feel bad about their choices providing that they are armed with the correct info and make an informed decision about it. Nestle do have their fingers in many pies and it would be a major lifestyle choice to not buy every brand that does not come from the third world and might use child labour. I watched something on BBC3 about child labour and residential homes that have been set up for rescued kids and reuniting them with their families, imo if people feel so passionately about child labour that they boycotte a brand, than i think that they should also donate money to help places like this that help rescued children from child labour imo

like i said i will try and avoid products made by Nestle, i dont have many anyway, just some Nesquick, as far as i can see, but will on very rare occasion buy the odd bit of chocolate.

[Hard hat firmly on]

Have you actually looked at the healthcare and education programs etc. that Nestlé has established in numerous third world countries. It can only do this as it is such a huge company with funds available to spend on good causes.

Also, why should women in third world countries be denied the choices that we have? They are not all sitting in mud huts looking out the window at their goats - many are heading off to work and should be able to purchase formula milk for their children, just as we can. Many are unable to breast feed, for any number of reasons. I was desperate to feed DD myself for as long as possible, but despite me being healthy and well nourished, she simply did not get enough milk from me, and lost more and more weight. If I had not been able to "give up" and give her formula milk, she would have died. Should women in the third world be denied this second chance?

The solution is not to deprive them of the choice on the basis that they are not considered to be as educated / rich as western women - rather they should have better access to information on how the milk should be prepared (i.e. not massively watered down / made with dirty water), and informed that it is NOT better than breast milk. Nestlé does both of these things now.

Have you ever lived in the 3rd world CoffeeandCarrotCake? You are making some sweeping presumptions about rights and choices here.

How can women have a real choice if they do not have accurate information? About breastfeeding and formula feeding, irregardless of where they live. (Yes, that includes you.)

Do you thing Nestle has been providing accurate information about their products to women around the world?

This is the crux of the issue.

Yes, I have.

That is my point - I believe that Nestlé does provide this information and also wider education programmes.

Do I think that Nestlé "has been providing accurate information about their products to women around the world" - since its sales began? Probably not. Since the WHO code (the International Code of Marketing of Breast-milk Substitutes) - yes, I do.

Then I would like to join you in your Utopia.

I btw was born and raised in the 3rd World. We all know that women go out to work in the 3rd world too. Even those of us on MN who have never lived there. Many of us are able to look at Nestle's behaviour as a part of a wider picture.

Where would I begin. You actually believe that Nestle is abiding by the WHO code?

If you do, then I have a bridge I can sell you.