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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think my normally sane DH is in danger of looking like a racist prick?

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FlamingoCrimbo · 21/12/2009 13:40

DH just forwarded me an email that has been forwarded to him and to other people at his work by one of his colleagues.

I'm hoping he's not forwarded it to anyone except me - it doesn't look like he has.

It's one of those ones called 'border law'. Just found a US version here - swap the US references to UK ones.

DH is just misguided, IMO, sending this on - he ought to know I'd find it offensive. But it's made me wonder if IABU to find it offensive and to think it's probably been written by someone in the US equivalent of the BNP or at least widely distributed by BNP supporters.

So - AIBU and, if IANBU, how would you tackle it with him? He's very lovely, kind, and, sometimes, misguided so I don't want to upset him. I had to stop myself replying with 'you know this email makes you look like a racist prick, don't you' but that's not really very nice, or helpful!

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TheShriekingHarpy · 24/12/2009 10:45

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Kaloki · 24/12/2009 11:30

For reasons of legality they were forced to change that, I find it difficult to believe that's changed the actual views of the party. Which IMO means that the supporters of the BNP either support the views the BNP have always been known for or are stupid enough to believe the insincere changes to their manifesto.

Especially bearing in mind they have only just allowed non british whites to join I can't see how anyone could regard them as anything but racist.

TheShriekingHarpy · 24/12/2009 12:36

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tethersjinglebellend · 24/12/2009 12:51

I am interested in your view on the BNP, Shrieking- would you consider voting for them?

You don't have to answer that if you don't want, I'm just curious...

Kaloki · 24/12/2009 13:12

What I was trying to say is, they are a party traditionally known for being racist. To me it seems very strange for anyone who doesn't agree with that past view to want to vote for them now. With all the clever wording in the world, they are still a party known for despising anyone who is not white and British.

I'm normally able to see both sides of an argument, but I honestly cannot fathom supporting a party where racism has been so integral to them in the (not so distant) past and who has links with the KKK etc. without in some way agreeing with those views.

onagar · 24/12/2009 13:53

So much stuff about Nazi's - sigh.

Reading a lot of posts at once as I just did highlights a problem. People thinking that 'asylum seekers/immigrants' are all the same. Other people thinking that this is horrible stereotyping yet talking as though all BNP voters are just the same.

They are all people ffs which means they vary.

I'm no friend of the BNP, but if you believe that anyone who votes for them must also want to gas jews than you are not thinking any clearer than the people you oppose.

The Nazi label (even when applied to a party that has some shared policies) detracts from proper debate by slapping on a label. It's saying "that's settled. Now I can turn my brain off"

That's not helpful whoever is doing it.

There will be people in the BNP who are scum that no decent person would want around them. There will be little old ladies who teach Sunday School, but are worried about their grandchildren's welfare.

Immigrants will include people willing and brave enough to uproot and seek a better life for their family and it will include the likes of this man

onagar · 24/12/2009 14:04

Anyway I hope you all have a good christmas.

Even those who might not be the same color as me or the same religion/politics.

Since I'm a blotchy pinkish/brown atheist/anarchist that's nearly all of you.

tethersjinglebellend · 24/12/2009 14:20

But onagar, there were little old ladies teaching Sunday school who voted for Hitler. This doesn't mean they were not Nazis.

I agree that it's dangerous to imagine that all members of far-right parties are society's rejects. It is also dangerous to see the word 'Nazi' as a playground term of abuse. It can be a valid comparison, particularly when discussing far-right politics. After all, the word describes the most powerful far-right party in recent history.

TheShriekingHarpy · 24/12/2009 20:36

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daftpunk · 10/01/2010 16:02

tethers;

I will reply to you...reading back now as can't remember what you asked me....

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