Have just had a huge row with a friend over DS finding his willy!!

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DS (22 months) has found his willy. He's found that it wees (to his huge amusement) and that if he plays with it, it will (in the way of all penises ) stand up and it feels good. Also hugely amusing, and, IMHO, completely normal.

I don't quite know how this came up when talking to a friend today. She has a DD a tiny bit younger than DS. And she said that I shouldn't let him play with his willy because if I did, he'd turn into one of those boys who expose themselves in the school yard . WTF?? And that normal babies shouldn't be pleasuring themselves (thereby implying there was something wrong with my DS.)

So I asked what she thought her DD was doing when she scoots up to the post in the middle of the room and hugs it and wriggles. She completely freaked out and called me a filthy-minded cow , whereupon I called her a hypocrite - this being the woman who felt free to tell me that her Rabbit got quite a workout when she was expecting her DD as her DH was too tired for sex at the end of his work day.

I don't know whether to laugh or be . As I can be a bit squeamish when discussing sex it's a novelty to be called a filthy-minded cow .

But AFAIK it's normal for toddlers to discover their bits and play with them, and provided it's not done out in public or to an abnormal extent, I see nothing wrong with it! I leave DS to it when he plays with his willy in the bath and he loses interest in about a minute... it's not like he's obsessing with it.

AIBU?

Only read the OP and a little bit drunk but got a bit freaked out at the rabbit getting a work out till I realised what you really meant !

Only got a 2.5 yo DD but sure it's normal. Friend is a loon.

DS1 (now nearly 6) has been humping his cuddly animals since he was 18 months old to get to sleep. He can't go to sleep without his favourite animal ( but not for any other reason apart from humping!).

He used to hump anything in front of an audience but fairly quickly learnt to just do it in private. .

We've rarely had any sleeping issues with him though.

I'm starting to think my boys are weird because they just fiddle and have never humped anything

Maybe they will be the flashers

My friend's DD announced that she doesn't mind her pull-ups except that they get in the way of her cuddling her teddy

DD1 is 4 and has been "having nice feelings" since she was about 8 months.

It started with her rubbing and grinding against the highchair and buggy straps and moved on to teddies, blankets, cushions, infact anything and everything.

She never cared where she did it or who seen her and it took until she was 3 to get her to understand it was ok to do but only in private.

Thankfully she keeps it to the bedroom now and sometimes comes home from school asking if she cango for a nap just so she can do it.

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I have to admit that when my friend told me about "her Rabbit getting a workout" when she was pg, at first I was - had no clue what she meant and was too to admit it (sorry, I love the festive smilies). It was on an MN thread a few weeks later that I found out what a Rabbit is - LOLOLOL - which then made me cringe even more that she told me about it... I have no objection to self-pleasuring, but I don't want to picture my friends doing it!!

'Snot that I don't know what a Rabbit it, I'm fairly familiar with it's ilk...just a bit drunk! (Christmas do)

Well, I didn't know... LOL!!!!!! I should add that to the "things I learned on Mumsnet" thread!

This thread is so enlightening for me. I was brought up to feel is was always a bad and dirty thing, once I was about 5, had gone to bed with all my teddies and one teddy in between my legs as it felt good there? My mum came to tuck me in, straightened out the duvet and said what is he doing there, he shouldn't be there, etc, and made me feel all wrong about it.

Fast forward and I didn't have an orgasm til I was at uni, with a rabbit, I didn't have one with a bf (no rabbit) til I was 24!!

Linked maybe?!

Who was it whose kid had a wank during the nativity play?

Well my ds must be weird then - he's never played with it or fiddled and he's 7 (and no - I really mean he hasn't ... I haven't just missed it)

Your DS is only doing what other boys do.its natural. and your friend really should be more understanding! YANBU at all

Oh, there's an AIBU thread about that - someone is trying to find the thread with the kid who played with himself during the nativity play! Can anyone find it??

Ok I have just sat reading this and aside from having tears of laughter running down my face I have to say YADNBU but your friend sounds like she has some major hang ups.

I firstly thought the pole was errr for dancing round so glad i read it all lmao.

DS2 discovered his "wee wee" as he calls it, no idea why when he was 4/5 months. This morning he decided he would see if a hula hoop would fit onto it. He has also tried with a toy nut (as in nuts and bolts). he is 2yrs old. I thought he was rather quiet this morning until he piped up "Mama look bisc (crisp) on wee wee" at which point before i could get across the room he had popped in his mouth....thank god he had just got out the shower!!!! i did try to make him spit it out though!

I wonder though, how on earth do you tell an 11 yr old its ok to play/touch whatever to yourself but please stay in your bedroom till it goes down!!!

My brother used to tell my mum his "willy was full up with dinner now"

You could leave him a note along the lines of -

DS

I dont want you to feel embarrassed about your body your growing up and going through lots of changes at the moment its perfectly normal to want to explore your body and you'll find that certain acts will give you certain feeling which is all normal and natural everyone finds out these things the same ways but as much as it is natural it is also a private, personal thing which should be kept to the bedroom until such feelings have gone "down"

My DS is 9 and hasnt fiddled since he was about 2 he got bored of it pretty quickly but im sure he'll start again in a few years

DD1 is 4 and still does it but keeps it to the bedroom now

DD2 is 3 and has never done it and looks at her sister weird when she does it and tells her to stop

Wow, this is my best AIBU thread so far .

Relations with friend are still, err, frosty (sorry, can't help Christmas theme) but I did try to tell her that if it was ok for her to pleasure herself, fully knowing what she was doing, why wasn't it ok for a baby, which is a purely sensory creature, to do what simply feels nice?

Well, she wasn't having any - "babies are innocent, they shouldn't have thoughts like this" (they don't, you daft cow, they just feel) and "it's just wrong". Well then... I believe we'll just leave this subject alone in future .

And I will simply chuckle to myself when DS does things to his willy that make my eyes water... he doesn't stretch it, like some, but he bangs on it with the flat of his hand . With a huge on his face.

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Sorry, that was DS wanting to add his two cents' worth

I'm a bit envious of all these kids actually as I didn't figure out how to masturbate till I was about 11...obviously I was slow.