to be a little hacked off with dp

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Earlier in the the year I went on holiday with my mum, siblings and dc to celebrate my brothers milestone birthday. The actual holiday was paid for by my mum. All it cost me was about £150 spending money. Dp made a huge fuss about not wanting holiday to cost him money as he wasn't going. I am a SAHM. Yet in the same year he has spent £300 on a football season ticket. Took his mum to a concert for a birthday.Now he wantys to take her to a play for her Christmas present.

This is nonsense. Loads of men want children, want families, want to deal financially in a fair and equitable fashion.

This world you live in marantha, where women trap men and should think themselves lucky to be clothed and fed, I don't recognise it at all. My world is populated by adults who make sane joint decisions and treat each other fairly, on the whole.

Fair enough, marantha; the OP just seems to have scarpered.

I can't see why you would care that much about other people having the same rights as you (if you are married)... Did you pay a lot for your wedding or something?

I would say that I loved you too, thesecondcoming, but I can't remember a damn thing you've ever written here.

To the poster that queried why I am peeved about cohabitation being made the same as marriage:
I am concerned because it troubles me greatly that if this were to happen then a couple would lose the right to live as they chose under the same roof. For cohabitee rights= forced marriage.
I don't like the thought of people being made automatically married after a couple of years of living together. It's just wrong and offends my sense of how things should be.

So far from being a pro-marriage loon, I am actually a PRO -cohabitation loon WHO BELIEVES THAT TWO CONSENTING ADULTS SHOULD BE ABLE TO LIVE UNDER THE SAME ROOF WITH THE STATE ONLY INTERFERING REGARDING ISSUES OF CHILDREN AND NOTHING ELSE.

OK in a way I get what you are saying, but surely by moving in togethe, sharing bills, mortage, funds and a child, denotes a level of comitment to each other?

expatin scotland - I did wonder if marantha was one of those estate agents but it seems that he/she has been posting anti-cohabitation messages for ages.

We seem to have gone a very long way from the OP. There is no evidence that she "trapped" her partner, so it seems rather harsh to keep harping on that point.

I get what you're saying ComeOveneer, but don't you see how subjective all of this is-one person's definition of commitment may differ greatly from another's.
What I might call commitment you may call a "fling".
If cohabitation were made akin to marriage, genuine unfairnesses would occur.
At least with marriage, both parties have to accept that by marrying they accepted responsibility for one another by doing so.

But surely thee needs to be a middle ground where people can live together, have children etc and have some sort of legal/financial security without commiting to marriage if they don't want it. If we have progressed to same sez unions surely it is a possibility?

Well, they could ALWAYS make their own financial arrangements between themselves-nobody's stopping them doing that.
They shouldn't rely on the state to do it for them though, that's not on.

I suppose the government could encourage people to make these arrangements- that may help.