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to think that when you say " a plain cheese and tomato pizza for fussy kids"

163 replies

DanDruff · 26/11/2009 11:08

you mean not one with REAL tomatoes and green stuff on it?

arf i know i ABU really - but if you knew the kid was fussy would you go green?

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Hulababy · 26/11/2009 15:06

If someone told me their child was fussy and would have a plain cheese and tomato pizza - I would seve just that, a pizza with a bit of tomato sauce and sprinkling of chees eon it. I wouldn't have put anything more on not even fresh tomatoes.

I love tomatoes but have to admit that I am not that keen on chunks of fresh tomatoes on pizza.

PuppyMonkey · 26/11/2009 15:06

Urgh!!... But the pips leave a horrible residue and it's all sticky and revolting and you can taste it. Bluergh!! (sp???)

I haven't sought help no. i get by fine, just avoiding them. Fear of tomatoes is more common than you think you know...

PuppyMonkey · 26/11/2009 15:08

arf at this

gagamama · 26/11/2009 15:08

IMO a 'cheese and tomato pizza' would be a pizza containing the toppings of both cheese and tomato. I would not count the sauce on the base as 'tomato'; if you order a pepperoni pizza or a quattro formaggi, they're not called 'pepperoni and tomato' or 'quattri formaggi and tomato'. The tomato sauce is implicit in the fact it is a pizza, and the stipulation of tomato would imply the addition of such a topping was required.

So, YABU.

DanDruff · 26/11/2009 15:10

haha
you are still going!

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Hulababy · 26/11/2009 15:14

Isn't cheese and tomato pizza - margaritta pizza? This (IME) neve has real tomatoes on. It will have cheese on top of the tomato sauce - normally just one type, generally mozzarella.

On pizza menus fresh tomato is always listed as an extra ingredient, as are additional cheese.

mollyroger · 26/11/2009 15:32

not-bothered which type.

mumOfTheYearNOT · 26/11/2009 15:34

The only pizza my children eat are hand made sourdough bases with a sauce of skinned, crushed and tomatoes puréed with garlic and oregano that have been lightly cooked in extra virgin olive oil. The only cheese allowed is Mozzarella di bufala campana. Anything else is child abuse.

noddyholder · 26/11/2009 15:37

Are you lot still eating pizzas?

Morloth · 26/11/2009 15:48

DS will mostly eat anything but there are some things he doesn't like. This doesn't mean they are not served to him. This means that he politely either: pushes it to the side and eats something else on the plate, or he eats it cause he is hungry enough for that to matter more.

He isn't too keen on tomatoes, but if a friend went to the trouble of making him a pizza then I would expect him to eat it tomatoes and all and say thank you it was lovely.

It doesn't matter what you are served it matters that someone has been kind enough to provide something for you to eat in their home. Isn't about likes or dislikes or even fussiness, it is about manners.

DanDruff · 26/11/2009 15:51

ah well the sitatuion was different
it was a fmaily gathering and we all shared bringin meals. I said PLEASE bring a plain cheese and tomato( ie margerita thatw as understood) pizza as ds1 is uber fussy

LOVELY donator who has the luck to haev normal kids didnt realise real tomatoes and green stuff is NOT nromal to him!

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DanDruff · 26/11/2009 15:52

mum of hte year
do fuck off

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alwayslookingforanswers · 26/11/2009 15:53

Well I can assure you that for an entire week my DS1 ate absolutely nothing at all, drank no milk, had no soups, and had about 2 or 3oz of very diluted fruit juice a day.

He wouldn't touch anything else. I didn't make an issue of it, just offered him food and if he refused it (which he did) carried on with what I was doing.

We gave up and went back to giving him what he would eat and just offering other food as an option. I'm sure he would have gone on much longer if I'd let him, but I wasn't prepared to find out. Not when he was hardly touching liquids either.

He grew out of it totally within a couple of years and the only thing I can think of that he doesn't like (off the top of my head) is tomato ketchup.

DS2 will eat (and always has) eat anything except red onions and spinach. And DS3 hasn't as yet gone through a fussy stage. Although he's not a huge eater (despite his enormous size ) he doesn't like lentils or potatoes unless it's roast potatoes or home made wedges.

I went through a fussy stage when I Was about 10. I spent an entire summer eating nothing but cheese salads (and they were those "non" salad that consisted of throwing a few random bits of cucumber, lettuce, tomatoes on a plate and labelling it "salad") and the entire winter eating mince beef and onion pies .

"I agree that adults do have preferences, a friend that hates fish, one that's always dieting, another that's a vegetarian.... all get catered for here!"

You can be my friend (although I'm pretty easy to feed - just no olives or offal of any description please)

PuppyMonkey · 26/11/2009 15:55

Manners me arse. Someone serves me tomatoes, I ain't eating them for nobody. End. Of.

alwayslookingforanswers · 26/11/2009 15:57

Morloth - yes I agree about the manners of when food is served up to you.

However - I also think that the manners from a host are just as important. and if you know that someone doesn't like something then you make a concerted effort not to serve it up. Only catering to allergies is pure pettyness imo.

Mum always said she'd rather cook something unusual that we rarely had in the house and see her guests happily eat it all up than stick to what she wanted to cook and see them leave huge bits on the side.

Morloth · 26/11/2009 16:04

In our circle we are all always trying to up the anti with weird food at dinner parties. I wouldn't have one without at least one bizarre dish that I hadn't tried before and all of the people whose houses I have been invited to for a dinner party are the same.

If we are entertaining for DH's work I will usually go steaks and keep it clean and simple (or cop out completely and get it catered).

If it is an informal thing then you get a BBQ.

If you are close enough to have dropped in and stayed for dinner then you get what you get.

noddyholder · 26/11/2009 16:09

my ds is dyspraxic asnd tomatoes public enemy no1

alwayslookingforanswers · 26/11/2009 16:11

well I think nettle soup and flowers from the flower beds are pretty weird . - but my mum would still make sure that she didn't cook anything that she knew a guest didn't like.

We grew up with a huge vareity of food being served, and a policy of "that's what's for dinner if you don't like it tough shit". But it didn't stop me going through fussy stages. Irrc my DB never really had a fussy stage.

Obviously trying something new is totally different.

And if someone is close enough to just drop round I would still adapt the dinner if I knew there was something they didn't like.

I was also taught that the best manners should be from the host - and that includes looking after your guests - not "tough shit just sit there and eat it quietly or leave it on the side of your plate if I've cooked something that I know you don't like".

One thing I've discovered having 3 children is that food likes/dislikes/fussiness is definitely more nature than nurture.

CatIsSleepy · 26/11/2009 16:12

dan
i think mumoftheyear was joking

at least i hope so

DanDruff · 26/11/2009 16:12

god i hoped so
i am sorry
do not fuck off
fuck back here

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BaronessBarbaraKingstanding · 26/11/2009 16:16

'entertaining for Dh's work' how very Margo and Jerry, do people still really do this?

i thought that's what restaurants were invenred for.

CatIsSleepy · 26/11/2009 16:26

i thought people didn't have dinner parties any more
I heard that on radio 4 you know

ASecretLemonadeDrinker · 26/11/2009 16:30

I bloody hate whole tomtoes. I would expect a cheese and tomato pizza to be tomato puree on base and cheese ontop, not tomato slices. Urgh. I do love the smell of a greenhouse full or tomatoes though, just cannot stand them to the point I move them off my plate at restraunts, scrape every pip away and have only cut them up once for DHs sandwiches and nearly threw up. Odd I know! Anyway, I believe up to a certain extent kids are allowed to have a choice in their food. I do not expect to be made to eat something I don't like or go hungry, so I do not expect a child to. I am not on about kids being over fussy, or wanting ice cream instead of salmon and pasta but I would never be like "that or nothing".

MorrisZapp · 26/11/2009 16:30

There are some foods that even now I couldn't eat out of politeness. I'd try, and I'd praise the food to the rafters and blame it on feeling ill or something, but there are some foods I just can't eat.

It's worse for kids becuase they don't control what comes out of the kitchen. I remember my mum always saying to me through gritted teeth 'You don't have to like it you just have to eat it' but I've never felt that was reasonable.

I don't eat foods that I don't like, why should I. It would be downright odd.

I went hungry a fair few times anyway. Didn't do me any harm at all but has made me totally anal about food as an adult. I hate anybody else preparing my food, I have to control it myself.

MorrisZapp · 26/11/2009 16:31

Sorry forgot to say YANBU.

Cheese and tomato pizza should have tomato sauce on it, not actual fresh tomato.

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