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4 x 4 driver, dropping off privately educated boy outside my house, on the pavement, forcing my son out of the way!

246 replies

SlartyBartFast · 23/11/2009 10:22

garrrr

he came out of the house, pissing down raining cats and dogs, to cross the road to catch the bus, this woman in a huge black 4 by 4 drove him off the pavement to drop off her precious
i was fuming.
despite being in my dressing gown i really wanted to go out and bang on her window

OP posts:
DanDruff · 23/11/2009 12:42

QED you are a wanker
most people in your situation accept this

OooohWhatAFuss · 23/11/2009 12:44

Woo hoo! Earlybird, I made the mistake of posting about a family spending £400 on presents for children and how I thought it was a lot of money, although some people could see my point, mostly it was 'you are so judgemental, it is their money, let them do what they want'. I catagorically do not think they should not buy lovely presents for their children, just that it is odd for a family who describe themselves as low income to spend this much on presents. However the jusgements made against anyone who has got a large income are unbelieveable! I think many people post what they think they SHOULD say/think to be regarded as left wing and liberal and that people who do not hold that view either pretend to or don't post at all. Want to start a gang? Pagwatch can come too

fannybanjo · 23/11/2009 12:44

Goat So this quote of yours "i think the sort of person who drives their privately educated child to school in a 4x4 probably has an inflated sense of entitlement and is more likely to behave badly" isn't chippy? It is downright offensive.

WouldYouCouldYouWithaGoat · 23/11/2009 12:45

i thought it rather pithy myself.

DanDruff · 23/11/2009 12:46

oh she is right

andtheir twatty cars and their precious dears who cant hack it/ sully their hands wiht the commoners then say " ah but i wOULD send him to a state school but he....."

yeah right.

Morloth · 23/11/2009 12:47

I post and don't pretend not to be wealthy. You just need a nice thick skin for Mumsnet. Being gobby helps a lot as well.

pagwatch · 23/11/2009 12:49

Its just so mindless. I went to a state school. I have two children at private schools and one at a state school.
Mostly people are nice. Some are tossers. The school is rarely the determining factor.

MarshaBrady · 23/11/2009 12:53

Don't understand why anyone would be 'offended' or upset at vitriol against the middle class on mn. Never noticed it.

I do and will privately educate the dc, as I was, but god help me if anything on here upsets me because I do. Fairly laughable if you ask me.

stoppingat3 · 23/11/2009 12:55

Earlybird, I too agree wholeheartedly with you.
Goat -

LetThereBeRock · 23/11/2009 12:57

I don't think it's considered a sin to be middle class on MN.
People seem only too happy to assure us of their middle class status or 'ponciness' and there are numerous threads referencing this.
Put middle class into the MN search engine and it's likely to explode due to the sheer number of results.

However I do agree that the upper middle/upper classes are often met on here with inverse snobbery and I can't understand why people have such a problem with others choosing to send their children to private schools.

I can perhaps understand why they don't agree with the private schooling system but to assume that all privately educated pupils,and the parents who send them there, are arrogant and snobbish is wrong.

MrFibble · 23/11/2009 13:00

Earlybird and Pagwatch - good on you.

OohWhatAFuss - Can I join your club?

pagwatch · 23/11/2009 13:00

I am not upset or offended.
I just hate lowest common denominator threads whatever they are discussing. Attributing certain morals, behaviours and opinions to large groups in society isn't reasonable and i hate it whevere it rears.

Its like the assumptions made about people on benefits or the ones about SAHMs/WOHMs.
Its always horrible.

fannybanjo · 23/11/2009 13:04

It is as prejudicial as stating that all people from Council Estates are on benefits and joy ride cars and rob old women for light entertainment but hey, its okay to take the piss out of people who are fortunate isn't it?

smallorange · 23/11/2009 13:05

I always thought the 4X4 driving yummy mummy to be a stereotype until I moved near a highly-regarded private school. It has recently expanded and now has a primary (prep?) bit added.

The traffic problems are horrendous and are mainly caused by people driving these tank-like cars on narrow streets, often very badly.

I walk three DCs to school and have stood for up to 5 minutes (5 mins is a long time on the school run) waiting for a gap in the nose-to-tail tractors to appear so we can cross. I think smetimes these people are so high up in the drivers seat they cannot see us waiting. More often than not someone will allow us to cross with a friendly wave -but sometimes we are ignored.

Sometimes it's as if we don't exist...

Glitterknickaz · 23/11/2009 13:07

I'd have taken a stanley knife to her paintwork.

Not really.... but it's tempting.

MintyCane · 23/11/2009 13:11

"its okay to take the piss out of people who are fortunate isn't it"

In a way it is more acceptable to take the piss out of the "fortunate" because they are "fortunate". You are fortunate and maybe you should also have a bit of a sense of humour about it.

To take the piss out of the unfortunate seems somewhat worse IMO - and yes it is done on Mumsnet, a lot. Both sides are just as bad.

stoppingat3 · 23/11/2009 13:13

Smallorange, I think that the parking issue is a problem for most schools, be they private or not.
On the way back from dropping my DC off I pass two state primary schools in seperate villages.
The parking there is disgraceful. All sorts of cars are parked (even 4x4's ) on verges, on double yellows and over the front of drives.
To be honest it doesn't bother me that much, I have to wait for oncoming traffic to stop before I can pass but at the end of the day we're all MUMS trying to get our children to school.

SofaQueen · 23/11/2009 13:13

Earlybird, I think that actually the proportion of people who are middle class has increased over time, and that the vitriol aimed at having a cleaner/4x4/privately educating has become more intense because those who aren't are a) feeling marginalized and/or have chips on their shoulders. Their posts are noted more due to the incendiary tones that they are written. I think that many people like me (who would be considered in the middle class bracket) aren't bothered enough to be baited, and are sensible enough to not get insulted so we simply ignore those posts and threads.

SofaQueen · 23/11/2009 13:14

I meant to say the proportion of middle class people on mumsnet has increased...

smallorange · 23/11/2009 13:16

'A small fiesta driven by a single parent of a child at a state school would hurt just as much if it hit you.'

hmm I don't think that's true - I think if I was hit by a Fiesta I would fly up on to the bonnet and then be thrown clear - they are designed to do that. Chelsea-tractors don't do that - and if they have bull bars you are mincemeat.

I don't think the MC need protecting - they do a perfectly good job of that by themselves - mumsnet demonstrates that.

Why shouldn't people have an opnion and express it?

MintyCane · 23/11/2009 13:16

"or have chips on their shoulders" here we go again what does that even mean

stoppingat3 · 23/11/2009 13:18

to seem angry all the time because you think you have been treated unfairly or feel you are not as good as other people

(Definition of have a chip on your shoulder from the Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary)

MintyCane · 23/11/2009 13:19

exactly - which is why it is used to patronize people and try to make them shut up on MN.

MintyCane · 23/11/2009 13:21

It is used to suggest that people who send their kids to state schools feel they are not as good as other people - see both sides are just as bad.

OooohWhatAFuss · 23/11/2009 13:26

MrFibble, welcome! Suppose I should really answer the question... OP, YANBU about being cross about your son being forced out of the way. As you have probably realised, YABU to state that she has a privately educated boy. So it balances out.

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