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Can someone explain to me why it's so difficult to purchase an OTC medication?

81 replies

Juillet · 19/11/2009 10:48

This morning I tried to collect some medicine I had ordered...it's fairly mild, over the counter stuff that I've used before.(phenergan/promethazine)

The fight I had to put up was amazing. This isn't counting the bit when she barely allowed me to order it in case I was intending to give it to my children

Perhaps I came across wrong when I was trying to chat about it - I mentioned it was prescribed for children thus was a milder medication than the other one I'd been prescribed. So maybe she took that wrong.

Anyway I finally went to get it and she started saying how I should just take the one I was prescribed, because it was for the same thing, we had a brief exchange where I tried to explain that one is stronger and I wanted the milder stuff as well for days when the problem wasn't so acute.

Then she turned that around, 'Oh you shouldn't be taking it every day' bla bla bla so had to explain that I'm NOT, it's only a few days a month, but sometimes it is bad and sometimes it is mild. So I wanted to save the prescribed meds for the worst times.

Then she said 'you shouldn't take them together' ffs, I wasn't intending to, so I said 'Oh really? Are they contraindicated?' and she had no idea what I meant so went to ask, and of course the pharmacist was like and I then noted the 'trainee' bit on this woman's badge...so I asked what the ingredient was, if it was the same, which I knew it wasn't as I have taken both before...couldn't see a reason they shouldn't be taken together, not that it mattered. No answer was forthcoming on that point but then I explained that it was for a few days a month when I have ovulation-related nausea. So the pharmacist asked if I also had ovulation pain, to which I replied no, and she told me I ought to buy some migraleve as it contains an anti nausea medication as well as paracetamol

I asked to see the packet (while the ever increasing queue pondered my ovulation status) and they reluctantly let me have a look. It had codeine in it which I don't like, and I didn't want a combo product, hadn't even mentioned my unrelated headache anyway, so declined and just bought what I had wanted all along.

I felt so patronised and frustrated. I know some people are obviously not bright and might take things all mixed up and so on, feed their children methadone and take roadkill home for supper, but I'm not one of them.

Pharmacists and their assistants do probably feel a burden of responsibility but where should they draw the line? If it's an over the counter med surely the patient should be considered the judge of appropriate use?

I'd appreciate any comments from pharmacists etc as well as anyone else of course

This was all in front of a queue of people as she was so obstructive and kept questioning and misinterpreting everything I said.

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thelunar66 · 19/11/2009 10:53

God how embarrassing for you! I don't ask them any questions or even make conversation with them any more. I just nod when they speak and pay my money.

Juillet · 19/11/2009 10:54

Good idea! I think I'll try not to enter into any discussion next time. She was so - it was like those Drs receptionists who won't actually let you see the Dr until they have personally judged that you really, really need to.

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thelunar66 · 19/11/2009 10:56

When they ask is it for you - I just nod and go Mm. Then they say 'you know to not take more than x number a day don't you?' Again.. nod and go Mm.

RJRabbit · 19/11/2009 10:58

I feel your pain. I went to get an iron supplement and was given the third degree. I (much to my shame) burst into tears - I'd just come out of hospital a couple of days earlier having had an op to remove an ectopic pregnancy!

Juillet · 19/11/2009 10:59

Yes you have it right obviously.

Ho hum. I would probably be the same if I was a chemist. I'd want to be in control of what everyone was taking in case they didn't do it right.

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Juillet · 19/11/2009 11:00

Oh God RJ, how awful

Sorry for x posts!

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Glitterknickaz · 19/11/2009 11:00

pmsl at roadkill for supper

TheDevilWearsPrimark · 19/11/2009 11:01

Ah I remember trying to buy deep heat for exH when I was heavily pregnant. I was flatly refused in three shops with no explaintion

Juillet · 19/11/2009 11:02

How weird.

Deep throat when pregnant is certainly inadvisable though

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foxinsocks · 19/11/2009 11:02

I can't get phenergan over the counter

I take it when my eczema is bad (so I can sleep without waking up and itching all night) and they will not give it to me

I have to waste my time going to the doctor to get an appointment just to get them to write out a prescription for an antihistamine

I was told it was no longer an OTC drug

Juillet · 19/11/2009 11:03

Really?? Gosh. Maybe it is in a higher dosage, they did ask me what dose I wanted, and it's only the 10mg one so maybe that's still available...they said it's no longer recommended for kids though for travel sickness, maybe the whole thing has changed.

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ladylush · 19/11/2009 11:05

IKWYM - I had to pretend the medication I was buying was for reflux when actually I was using it to improve milk supply. Otherwise there would've been an argument about it being off-license

RJRabbit · 19/11/2009 11:06

A lot of people use it for babies/kids on long haul flights as it quietens them down. My dr prescribed it for my son when he was 18 months - unfortunately he was among the tiny percentage for whom it has the opposite effect!

Sassybeast · 19/11/2009 11:07

No wonder they were confused - I certainly am Phenergan is issued with extreme caution now BECAUSE people WERE abusing it and giving it to children to make them sleep. If you started to 'chat' about your medication, I'm not sure what direction you wanted that 'chat' to take. YABU. Next time just nod in the appropriate places.

foxinsocks · 19/11/2009 11:07

I don't know Juliet. They were pretty adamant they weren't going to give it to me in any dose at all (I did ask for the mildest one too).

I am now abroad (for a few days) and will go to the chemist and stock up. At least here there is no nanny state and I can actually go into the chemist and buy something that is relatively harmless without being made to feel like I have gone in trying to buy heroin ffs.

I am so fed up with the system here. It is totally ridiculous.

Thing is, I am always perfectly honest when I go to the chemist (and will be when I purchase it here). The system in the UK just encourages people to either not be truthful or just not get the drugs they need. I don't have time to go to the doctor just to get a prescription and it's hard enough to get an appointment and I feel it's just clogging up the system unnecessarily.

foxinsocks · 19/11/2009 11:09

No Sassy, it's the tablet form designed for adults.

StripeyKnickersSpottySocks · 19/11/2009 11:12

My local pharmacy refuses to sell me phernagan. I have to go to Tesco to get it.

I'm a shift worker and if I work nights (two times a month) I need a phernagan to help me sleep. Everyone at work (Drs) use it. Pharamacist won't sell it to me, says its at his discretion and told me to go to the GP.

Juillet · 19/11/2009 11:13

Gosh, have never even considered lying to a chemist. Sassy, I wasn't aware of that and am shocked that people give it to their children to make them sleep.

The reason I mentioned the fact it was often given to children was that she was already looking at me doubtingly, and I was trying to cover all bases and get across to her why I was handing her a prescription I had for metoclopramide at the same time as ordering some phenergan.

I assumed she would stop looking at me like that if I told her I wanted two different drugs which essentially were for the same purpose but in different potencies.

I will just nod (or LIE) next time though

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Poledra · 19/11/2009 11:13

Do you not think that some of this is due to our increasingly litiginous society? So, if the pharmacist is not as nosey thorough and something goes wrong, (s)he runs the risk of being sued.

As an aside, some pharmacies have a private consultation room now, so you could have asked to discuss it there (though I do understand that you did not want to discuss it in such detail, just that the pharmacy assistant did).

And how does the pharmacy assistant know without talking to you that you are not one of those people who 'might take things all mixed up and so on, feed their children methadone and take roadkill home for supper'?

Sassybeast · 19/11/2009 11:13

Fox - was referring to the OP having a fight to even order it in case it was for kids

Juillet · 19/11/2009 11:14

Fox I hope you manage to get some.

It does make sense if it is a discretionary drug, I hadn't known that, obviously they need to suss you out then if they might get into trouble for giving it to someone dodgy.

They went on about how drowsy it makes you. I'd rather be a bit sleepy than feel too sick to function though.

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Juillet · 19/11/2009 11:18

Poledra that's true. I thought perhaps I was being unreasonable in expecting them to ascertain that I was who I said I was without going into immense unnecessary detail, but of course they can't just 'tell' can they.

I think when I asked for the packet and read it and commented on the ingredients they were reassured that I wasn't totally uneducated, although again that could have gone against me...knowing too much about ingredients, maybe I run a covert factory somewhere...

Besides they were very keen to sell me migraleve. I don't have migraines. That's the one with the opiates in it fgs!

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Poledra · 19/11/2009 11:22

I have to admit, Juillet, I was playing devil's advocate a bit there - I have a PhD in pharmacology, and get pretty pissed off when the pharmacy assistant tries to quiz me on why | need Anusol (coz DH has piles, p'raps?). I would have thought that, when you commented on the ingredients, that they should have twigged. But you are clearly a manufacturer of illicit drugs, selling them on t'internet and Not To Be Trusted

foxinsocks · 19/11/2009 11:23

yes, you see codeine, the one people get addicted to, you can get over the counter grr.

thelunar66 · 19/11/2009 11:25

Have you had a search on line for it? You may be able to buy it from abroad that way.