Do annabel karmel's meal planners make anyone else feel completely inadequate?

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They are ridiculous, how does anyone have time to prepare that much food?

Aitch not time to read all recent posts today, but yes I do need a recipe for Hungarian Goulash, I like following recipes and find you aggressive calling me stupid.

Read thread now, avoiding bathtime , and must add due to sleep deprivation v sensitive to being called stupid re recipe. But in hindsight stupid thing was to post as all was kicking off.

oh no no no no no, niknak, in that one paragraph i was aping secondcoming's post. nothing to do with you at all, really. if you look, i am not one for insults and ??!! and 'seriously??!!'

clearly, some people either need or want recipes for stuff, whether it's how to make nice sweet potato wedges or nice sweet potato puree, i don't have an issue with that at all. it's secondcoming who does.

and i have found it hard to decipher your point, secondcoming, in amongst all the aggression and swearing, 'apologies' immediately followed by insult and otherwise densely-packed prose. can you remind me what it is again?

if it's that women should try to have confidence in themselves then you'll get no argument from me, if it's that, as you put it 'BLW makes me piss myself...isn't it just 'letting them feed themselves'', then i agreed some hours ago that it is exactly that (although i'm still confused as to the humourous element).

if it's all your other nasty ranting about BLW and my blog when quite clearly you don't know what you're talking about (haven't really written anything on it in a couple of years, for example) then i personally interpret your peculiarly aggressive manner as indicative of someone who's too frightened to just have a discussion like a grown-up.

but very glad to make your acquaintance and all that, etc.

Actually nik has a point. I am a very capable cook. I would need a recipe for hungarian goulash. Being a russian student myself, even I don't know what makes it 'hungarian'.
Stupid me.
Not good Aitch.

You're not funny tsc, just insulting. Do you not understand that you are telling large numbers of women how stupid they are, because they couldn't work out these things for themeselves? So shoot us for needing a little advice. I suppose anyone doing weight watchers or similar is equally stupid, because who needs a movement for that either? Or anyone who needed help with breastfeeding, or baby illnessesw or indeed for anything that "thesecondcoming" thinks should be self evident?

You might choose to see at as stick people can beat themselves with, some of us see it as useful advice. And presumably you prefer to be theonly one with a big stick, wielding over us lesser parent mortals...

I loved the BLW forum it's nice to have a bit of back up when all your family think you're mad not to give your baby babyrice.
That's all it is really, a bit of support, a laugh and a 'do what you feel is right' attitude, no preaching, no cliques just a bit of hand-holding where necessary.
They're no money to made from it it is just common sense, but it's nice to share the process with other people.
I looked at a AK book, and instinctively didn't like it, too 'Delia' control-freaky for me, I prefer Jamie.
Friends of mine have pureed and it's worked brilliantly for them, it really is no biggie IMHO, whatever works for you.

oh shut up the lot of you - go off and cook your respective types of baby food - judging by the passion on display here, neither of your babies is likely to go hungry (tho' this one has run on for sooooo long they may well be hungrily protesting by now!!!)

er, thanks zebramummy. there are quite a lot of posts on MN, you know, you'll be kept busy if you're going to tell everyone to shut up because they're having a discussion.

oblomov, i've explained about that post, i was merely pastiching secondcoming's post with the 'seriously??!!' etc with the most recent AK-type examples.

and secondcoming, i have No Idea what you're on about now. curing cancer with a banana? i think it's the BMJ you're wanting now, not MN.

I am stupid tsc, obviously, as I did in fact need a website to tell me that I didn't have to feed purees and use jars. I'm dim like that, as I said.
I'm not thick enough though to agree with your impenetrable point, whatever the hell it is. Peeling bananas = curing cancer. yeah, thats exactly what we were saying, clearly.

Aitch I would like to look at your blog,as I said before due to the HV poopooing BLW i didn't do it, but was definitely interested in it's more natural approach to feeding. My DS2 could put things in his mouth from about 3 mnths, when he go his 1st tooth so I did feel if he was 'in the wild' he would've been chomping on all sorts from before 6mnths, but I did hold off.

I would like to ask your opinion on whether BLW delays cutlery use/makes kids want to eat with their hands for longer than the spoon fed child. It was something a GP friend of mine stated, although I was a bit dubious since my 17mnth old fights to get the spoon off me and feed himself.

Sorry, my post was meant to be about getting a link to the blog please

niknak, i gave / give my babies spoons / forks with their food. dd2 feeds herself using the spoon now and has been doing it for a long time. ime it doesn't delay the use of spoons AT ALL, just the opposite.

I was advised to buy the book when at 6 months (she was weaned at 5 months) my first dd wasn't even eating carrots. My HV told me she was bored of them (how she could be when she wouldn't eat one is beyond me). I started trying the recipies and hey presto she started eating them. So I stuck with it and found it very good.
2nd DD 22 months later and I didn't really need it as she was weaned at 4 months (yes, I know, but she was HUGE and even the HV said she wouldn't last until 6 months), and she was easily eating 3 meals a day and then some by 7 months. And again, I stuck with making all my own food.
DD2 is now 16 months and I've sold the book on to another hopeful.
And I wonder why I was tired all the time

WTF is going on here?

babyledweaning.blogware.com/blog have a look here, niknak. i have a prettier version elsewhere but the servers exploded and all the photos got lost.

i've asked the women on my forum about the cutlery thing, got about forty answers i think and there was no problem. it always strikes me as counter-intuitive to expect that someone else spooning something into a child's mouth is what teaches them to use cutlery. surely all it's doing is teaching them how to be fed?

imo what teaches kids to use cutlery is seeing their parents eat, not opening your mouth to be fed, that doesn't make sense. they learn from copying and from exploration afaia so as long as you eat with your kids and let them loose on cutlery, they'll learn imo.

That was my thoughts also Aitch, but my friend does worry about choking etc so a bit anti BLW. I've never met anyone without a gag reflex, so I understood it that as long as they could sit up to eat all would be fine. Thanks

ach well, the thing about choking is that we should all be worried about it, for loads of reasons. they could pick some weird thing up off the ground and choke on that, for example, it needn't be a bit of steamed carrot.

so imo at least parents who are giving finger food from the beginning do so purposefully, having checked out a bit of infant resus etc. whereas it seems to me that by assuming it won't ever happen because you weaned on purees for a couple of months, people are kinda sticking their heads in the sand on that one.

for example, the friend who actually told me about blw in the first place was all up for it until she suddenly thought 'what would i do if my dd choked?!' and so did purees. so by her own admission she still doesn't know what she'll do if her dd chokes...

I always think grab them by their ankles and shake! But do know the 'proper' way .

I used to do exaggerated chewing when DSs had any problems, usually because they'd shoved in too much in one go

yeah, that's a good one. NYUM NYUM NYUM, darling.

i went to an infant resus and 'turn them upside down' was the official advice. all the stuff you see on Holby is for adults, we were sagely informed.

I was told over the knee head down with back slapping

that too. i've never had to do it, so far as i can recall, other than to a kid in the park. not mine.

I had to heimlich my husband 2 weeks after c-section. I had to invent my own way on the spot as I suddenly realised he was too tall.
I shouted at him to get on all fours, then straddled him and did the heimlich manouevre.

Thinking of putting him back on purees.