to be a bit concerned as next door neighbour is lettting his house out?

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I live in a fairly good area and have nice neighbours on the whole. The guy next door is moving out and is letting his house. I mean we could get really nice people in but of course we might not. My parents had this happen to them and are now living with the neighbours from hell so I suppose I am sensitive to this.

There is no reason for tenants to be any worse than owner occupiers as DH points out and if he sells it you would have the same concerns. It's just that I think renters just don't have the same 'investment' iykwim. I worry if we get young people sharing who might be noisy etc....Or some serial benefit wastrels.

Maybe I am just being a snob or paranoid or both!

ROFL @ drug addled home owning teachers!

Although not very pleasant for you, obviously dilemma.

Are they the ones who are up and down from the local pub all the time?

well, a concern into who is moving next door is natural.

our next doors rent, and they are ok. the other side own, and i think the main difference is they make more of an effort to get to know us. Owner occupiers tend to make more of an effort with the exterior of he house, as landlords just do the minimum they can ge away with (it is for money after all)

shared houses can be bad to live next to, depending (i think of some of the student houses i lived in/ visited, deffo wouldn't want to have been living next doors.)

Bit harsh from some posters.

Some renters are lovely but some aren't.

Like it or not there are 'serial benefit wastrels' out there and that's fine if you want to live next door to them but other people don't.

Personally, I wouldn't want to, but if they are nice people then it doesn't matter if they are on benefits or not.

YABVU, and a bit snobby.

trip trap.

what is up with all these benefits threads?

it's getting old.

i thought hte school holidays were over?

YABU. DD1 and her DH rent as it's impossible for them to get a mortgage at the moment. They are young but are very sensible.

I agree with expat. Lots and lots of benefit threads, they all go the same way and still people persist in starting them. Sadly, this time none have descended into hilarious silly messing about instead of serious posting. Alas.

YANBU. I live in a stair (block of flats) in Edinburgh and we live in constant fear of our lovely neighbours selling to a landlord.

Partly it's becuase of self knowlege - in my younger, renting days I admit I was an inconsiderate neighbour, just like the current young renters in our stair.

We've had two lots of neighbours from hell, but tbh there is a silver lining which is that if bad neighbours are renting, you can hassle the landlord to do something about it - landlords have to be registered now so you can find them online.

If you are unlucky enough to have bad neighbours who own their property there's sod all you can do.

No name calling from me but you are been extremely unreasonable to have more worries about tenants than owners.

I'm an owner and I've been a tenant. As an expat (oh glory days ) we rented. We sold our house and rented before moving into our new, larger home. That's quite normal these days. And the people that I know on benefit are just the same cross section of nice and caring as those that aren't.

No name calling from me but you are been extremely unreasonable to have more worries about tenants than owners.

I'm an owner and I've been a tenant. As an expat (oh glory days ) we rented. We sold our house and rented before moving into our new, larger home. That's quite normal these days. And the people that I know on benefit are just the same cross section of nice and caring as those that aren't.

YABU people who rent are just as normal as anyone else and not likely to cause any trouble as a neighbour.
We rent, but i think in london that is quite common. Never really came across many people looking down because of it, i think that is quite stupid. Renting is not necessarily due to cant afford to buy, but maybe some people do not want to take a mortgage for whatever reason, dont want to commit long term to one property and lose the flexibility, find it more convenient or many other reasons.
Even if they did rent due to cant afford, it does not mean they will be a bad neighbour or some kind of lower being.
Its just a stuck up attitude and worrying for nothing

If you are in an area where there are lots of lets to students, it might be difficult as they are so transient and often have absolutely nothing invested in the house/area. Having said all that, we have had students either side of us for years and so far, we are probably noisier than all of them put together (apart from 6 months of nightmare students).

The sad thing is, we don't know who they are and I don't think they care who we are, so it doesn't do anything for community spirit.

I agree with you UH ("Bit harsh from some posters.") I think the suggestion that OP was giving a "fuck off" to anyone who disagreed was perhaps the most harsh.

Sure, the OP does seem to be crossing bridges because of some {imaginary} problem, and admits it, but can see there are justified concerns, whether some neighbour is a tenant or owner.

FWIW, I can understand your concerns, but you're on a hiding to nothing if you put emotive / condemnatory terms when you don't know every tiny detail of every reader's life, so they could happen to fit any category of person you identify as being "out of favour" in your eyes.

I'd say to OP 'give them a chance' before you decide they're going to be a problem, oh, and don't offer people the option of agreeing that you're being a 'snob' in future, because they will.

(I consider myself 'brought up' rather than 'dragged up' but don't voice my opinion of someone being 'dragged up', when in their company, as they might disagree with my viewpoint, and get physical!)

NOT A SNOB!!! very ignorant of these posters i rent, my upstairs neighbours moved and now i have heroin addicts as neighbours with a staffy that would bite you given half a chance. dont mind addicts thats the area i'm trained in but addicts that have the police at their door every 2nd night....i draw the line!!

YABU. Stop being a snob. There is, as has been already says, no reason why tenants would be worse neighbours than people who had bought the place.

The only difference is that of money. In this climate it's not even income, but capital that is the issue, and that in no way promises you "nice" quiet unobtrusive neighbours.

You are justified about being worried... just as you would be about any new neigbours.
However, we live in an area where a lot af elderly people used to live. One by one the neighbours have 'left'. We missed them, having established friendships (and more with those less able)
Relatives have sold the houses off cheaply for the area because they needed updating.
They have mostly been snapped up by developers... we despaired!
We actually have terrific neighbours now and if anything, the renters are nicer neighbours than the young couples that have bought and now think that they can do whatever they like.

What a silly OP, we have been renting fot a year, not because we are benefit wastrels ( awful phrase) or because we are poor but because we moved and were waiting to sell our house. We are now going to continue renting for another year or two while we save for a bigger deposit to put down on a house. We actually love where we are and are even considering staying here , but buying somewhere else and renting it out.

We actually dont have immediate neighbours but would be very good ones. Since moving into our home we have improved it and are currently over hauling the garden.

Of course some people who rent are twats but that is because they are twats not because they rent.

I agree exapt there does seem to be a lot of very ignornant daily mailesque benefits threads.

at dilemma's ps over title mis-read.

Sorry, but think IOnlyReadtheDaily... has no valid arguament here because
"don't have immediate neighbours"

I don't have immediate neighbours at the moment, I did a few months ago and was an absolute model neighbour. House tidy, gardens tidy and improved, helped neighbours out, on neighbourhood watch scheme, homemade baked gifts for neighbours at Christmas etc.

If I had neighbours I would again be a model neighbour.

Will you move near me... I'm quite liking the idea of homemade baked gifts at Christmas!

lol shockers, I sent out little jars of homemade mincemeat and homemade chutney. When we moved in I made up little cream tea baskets for all the neighbours with homemade scones, jam, clotted cream and some teas. Am going to visit the person who is our closest "neighbour" next week and am planning what I will take.

I am the same neighbour as I was when I owned a property, infact I may even be a better one as I am mindful that I am in someone elses house and that some people have preconceptions about tenants.

I had awful tenants in my house when I rented it out, they trashed our house, refused to pay rent and upset most of the neighbours. But this was because of who they were not because they were tenants.

We are just about to move and rent our house out ( twas mine before we were married and i have been here for 22 yrs)
I'm scared I must admit but the neighbours I have give me confidence... wish I could tempt the family next door southward!

The experience of renting our house did put us off ( I am now totally contradicting myself now) and we paid rent and mortgage for a year. We had just decorated ours to sell, let tenants move in ( one of whom was a close relative) one refused to pay rent, issed threats to us when we tried to do something about it. They redecorated the whole house , but only painted as far as they could reach, ran up huge electricity and gas bills and didnt pay them, tried to commmit benefit fraud and involve us... I could go on.