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to be a bit concerned as next door neighbour is lettting his house out?

130 replies

fifitot · 04/09/2009 19:26

I live in a fairly good area and have nice neighbours on the whole. The guy next door is moving out and is letting his house. I mean we could get really nice people in but of course we might not. My parents had this happen to them and are now living with the neighbours from hell so I suppose I am sensitive to this.

There is no reason for tenants to be any worse than owner occupiers as DH points out and if he sells it you would have the same concerns. It's just that I think renters just don't have the same 'investment' iykwim. I worry if we get young people sharing who might be noisy etc....Or some serial benefit wastrels.

Maybe I am just being a snob or paranoid or both!

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fifitot · 04/09/2009 20:18

Er.....thanks to those who posted the helpful replies.

For those who just sought to call me names, gee thanks.

Maybe I am judgemental but see cornflowers post which pretty much mirrors my parents' experience. So I am not talking without some experience of this.

BTW - I have had to claim benefits in the past but I stick by 'serial benefit wastrels' comment and you can call me a nasty cow all you like! Whose being judgemental now!? I don't mean everyone on benefit - I would have thought that was obvious. Most reasonable people will know exactly what I mean.

Really glad I posted now.......

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scottishmummy · 04/09/2009 20:21

LOL the AIBU plaudits for affirmative posts
fuck off to anyone who had temerity to disagree with you

Nice

says more about you than us fifitot

ElieRM · 04/09/2009 20:22

Look on current benefit thread.Most 'reasonable' people acutally don't know what you mean. What did you expect from AIBU?

fifitot · 04/09/2009 20:24

Erm wondering where I said fuck off to anyone who disagreed with me???? So I didn't particularly like the posts that sought to call me names. My issue wasn't that they disagreed.

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wheresclaire · 04/09/2009 20:26

I rent in a "nice" neighbourhood. Its a lovely cul-de-sac full of old people. They treat us like lepers. The only time we get spoken to is when they complain about my children. The old lady next door phoned the police because my DS age 6 threw a stone in her pond. (NOT behaviour I condone). They make me feel like awful and self concious. I pity your new neighbours.

skybright · 04/09/2009 20:26

The way it is at the moment to get a morgage loads of people are renting,i rent ,no doubt pay far more for my house than the others that live about me..oh and my OH and myself both work full time.

theyoungvisiter · 04/09/2009 20:26

lol at "helpful"

You didn't ask for advice - you asked AIBU. Telling you Yes You Are is not being "unhelpful". It's being honest. If you don't want opinions, don't ask for them.

PrincessToadstool · 04/09/2009 20:28

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scottishmummy · 04/09/2009 20:28

post on AIBU,expect divergent responses.you had hissy fit and specifically thanked affirmative posters,whilst harrumphing and gee thanks about non concordant

do grow up

theyoungvisiter · 04/09/2009 20:29

Well I've reread the thread, and afaics only one person called you a rude name (a cow).

Other people agreed with your own suggestion that you were being a snob but I don't think that's calling names - that's simply agreeing that your worry was right, you are being a touch snobbish.

Who else called you names?

meemarsgotabrandnewbump · 04/09/2009 20:31

I am amazed at the generalisations about renters and the scaremongering anectdotal stories!

Yes, generally people who rent do so because they can't afford to buy. But does it really need pointing out that it does not make them a 'type' of person any more than owners can be lumped together as a 'type' of person?

Unpleasant owner behaviour can include all of those of renters i.e noise, parties, arguements, rudeness, dogs, kids.

But on top of that you could have boundary disputes, noisy/intrusive building work, ownership pettiness - plus you are stuck with them for a lot longer because of their investment in the house.

RoryGilmore · 04/09/2009 20:32

my sister is on benefits and HB pays her whole rent. She had to get our Mum to be guarantor (sp?) on her rental agreement incase she defaulted (). She's got a tiny baby and was having massive problems getting a flat because of certain prejudices against people in her situation.

She's currently having huge problems with the people in the upstairs flat who think that music at 3am is perfectly acceptable. They've put down wooden floors (even though this is not allowed) and deliberately stomp about at all hours to cause my sister grief. They're LOVELY people..

They own it.

It was the tone of your OP. Yes you ARE judgemental. I have a mortgage now, but have rented for many years, and hate the idea that tenants are more likely to be noisy/messy/whatever just because they don't own the place. it's utter bollocks.

VinoEsmeralda · 04/09/2009 20:33

See where you are coming from but you could have worded it better. Most people on benefits thoruoghly deserve it but there are always the odd ones out, on benefit or not!

When we bought our house 10 years ago it was a lovely leafy street/area where most people living there were the owners or older people who lived in their council house for years and it was a good area to live in. Then three years ago one of the people moved out and a young mum moved in, her boyfriend was dealing herione from that property and they were always hanging out in the front garden drinking. Having kid after kid but unfortunately for them it was the same sex 4 times in a row so they didnt get the upgrade they wanted. In the end they managed a council swap and we thought 'phew good riddance'

New family moved in and all seemed well but hey the daughter dealed as well and apperantly on somebody elses patch so they came with a gun andmade a hige scary scene. Luckily the police came with armoured vans and all accompanying stuff

So I certainly share your fear!

fifitot · 04/09/2009 20:33

Where did I specifically thank affirmative posters? I said 'helpful' - i.e posts that sought to make a point in a manner that wasn't personally insulting. It wasn't about agreement or disagreement.

I don't think I had a 'hissy fit' but don't let that spoil your fun.

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MarthaFarquhar · 04/09/2009 20:33

The only nuisance neighbour I've ever had was one who was an owner-occupier of a very expensive London townhouse. Luckily, we were at the time mere scummy renters, so we were able to up sticks sharpish.

LovelyTinOfSpam · 04/09/2009 20:34

YABtotallyU.

Nightmare neighbours can be from any walk of life/financial situation. As can great ones. Ditto average ones.

Also a bit that a shared house automatically means trouble.

Wait and see then come and have a whinge if the actual people you actually end up next to are awful.

bran · 04/09/2009 20:38

Who was it who said that AIBU should be rename "I'm needy, validate me"? She was so right.

FWIW I live in a development with quite a high proportion of rented properties and obnoxious owner occupiers are more of a problem than obnoxious tenants as the tenants are given notice fairly quickly if they cause a disturbance.

skihorse · 04/09/2009 20:38

YABU - you don't want problems with neighbours? Buy a detached house! (I did - turned out it's "lonely" - so you can never win! )

Satsuma1 · 04/09/2009 20:39

I think the OP is not being unreasonable to be worried about who may move into the house next door. However, I do think she is BVU to assume that people who rent would be worse than someone who bought the property.

I've had nightmare neighbours in the past and they owned the property and were in their 80's!

RoryGilmore · 04/09/2009 20:39

defensive much?

Don't post in AIBU if you aren't thick skinned.

fifitot · 04/09/2009 20:43

Oh sorry. I didnt realise AIBU was a free for all.

Never mind people 'being needy' I think some people just like a fight.

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meemarsgotabrandnewbump · 04/09/2009 20:47

fifitot - if you think that any comments were personal attacks you should report them. Although I must say I haven't really noticed any.

You did say in you OP 'maybe I am being a snob or paranoid or both!'

Many people simply agreed with you.

RoryGilmore · 04/09/2009 20:48

yes, you're certainly one of them!

YABU.

dilemma456 · 04/09/2009 20:50

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