To think alot of women are having terminations at the moment...

[sonotatroll]

I understand if it is for a medical need.

I know this will kick off but have people not heard of contaception, it makes me so that people have to make these decisions.

No need for the name calling.

I have a friend who would love to get pregnant but never will

I just dont think it is right to terminate a unwanted pregnancy.

Well I have fertility problems and badly want a baby but I still fully support the right of women to terminate unwanted pregnancies.

I'm not entirely comfortable with abortion but I'm pro choice and far less comfortable with forcing women to continue with pregnancies, than I am with terminations. That's a form of slavery imho.

I had a termination in January. Due to a contraception failure. Not going into my reasons why, because it doesn't matter here, surfice to say is wasn't medically necc.

Contraception fails. A friend concieved her first on the pill, her 2nd on condoms. Although she did continue the pregnancies.

They do say that no form is 100% fail safe.

if you change the 't' for an 'f' in the op's user name it's sonofatroll-which makes him or her a troll,and a dull one at that.
the daily hate probably has a message board you could start a row on-if you don't think people should be able to make a decision based on their own circumstances about whether or not they want to bring another child into the world then i can't attempt to engage with you in any sensible way.

YOu don't think it's right to terminate an 'unwanted pregnancy' - don't be stupid, if it's not wanted it's not going to have a great time is it.

It's not right for you. Doesn't mean you can say its not right for someone else.

If you don't agree with abortion then don't have a termination, but don't try to stop other women for doing what is right for them.

From.

troll, why don't you mind your own business?

"Some women will even get pregnant using Depo-Provera, which is the safest form there is, other than abstinence or tubal ligation"

Qually that's interesting that TL is (one of)the safest form, I've been looking into having my tubes tied, and my dr said there is a 5% failure rate after a yr due to reattachment. These are usually eptopic pregnancies tho. So I am slightly torn! I cannot risk (mentally or physically) another pregnancy.

'I just dont think it is right to terminate a unwanted pregnancy'

So what should women do with it then?

I have had to make the decision to have a termination very recently, partly due to medical reasons (so maybe that's ok with you ) and partly because I could not cope with a fourth dc. A lot has gone on in the past 6 months, that I am not going to go into here, and although I sympathise for your friend, and the 1000s of women like her, we have had to make this decision based on our own individual circumstances, like any other woman who has had to make this decision.

differentname - good Lord, really? How scary. I had no idea - my Mum had ligation because she thought it was 100%, back in the early 80s. I won't tell her; she's 60 now, and it'd freak her out dreadfully to know the risks she ran!

I'd leave the troll to it. Not worth the distress/anger the topic is likely to raise, when it's just shit-stirring.

honestly my views on abortion arent that far from the ops, but it is legal here and there is absolutely no point in starting nasty threads like this which are going to upset people, I do think it is best to keep quiet

If you seriously wanted to stop abortions then there are proper channels, write to your mp for example, it is cruel to deliberately stir up ill feelindGwhatever your moral objections are

Qually, apparently so! Well...according to my dr anyway. The more I read the more I against going down that road.

"Don't worry love, we don't need condoms, I'll just go and get an abortion in a few weeks time"

I just think its wrong to terminate an unwanted pregnancy.

If only life were that simple hey

I am sure that there are some women who have terminations without giving them much thought, who reclessly and contiunally have unprotected sex, who leave the clinic whistling a merry tune.

I am equally sure that these women are a tiny tiny minority and most women do not choose a termination lightly and without good reason (to them).

I am waiting for the 'they can be adopted' argument to come up again. Some could, most wouldnt. We would be back to children's homes again. Why do you think that young, healthy white babies are in such high demand?

I would assume that a major reason is that 'unwanted' babies are not always born. If they were it would lead to a shortage of homes as it did pre abortion, welfare benefits.

I have very mixed feelings around termination. I think most of us do. No one WANTS it or LIKES it but we recognise that sometimes it is the only way.

Interested that the old 'I dont mind if its for medical reasons' comes up yet again though.

I don't think you have any idea how hard it is to go through an abortion.

I do think a lot of the younger generation do see it as an option on par with other contraception though.

You cannot seriously believe all abortion is wrong though?

I don't think it's great for a woman to terminate an unwanted pregnancy, but I'd prefer that to her having an unwanted baby, bringing up an unwanted child with all the issues that brings up. Even adoption has resonances for many many years for the parents and adoptees. My cousins were adopted and never got over the rejection they felt, both of them ended up with terrible drug problems and personal issues for many years - happily all now much improved.

Children don't need much in life, but they do need to be wanted and loved.

sonotatroll - I am sorry that your friend is having fertility problems. However, whether or not other women have terminations will not affect your friend's chances of becoming pregnant. The two are completely unrelated.

People find themselves in difficult circumstances and they try to make the best decision they can for themselves and their families. Try not to judge another person, it won't help you or your friend.

it is a shame that your friend is having trouble conceiving.

however, preferring women to carry on with unwanted, unplanned pregnancies to deliver a baby for somoene like your friend to adopt is not the solution.

women do not have abortions solely as contraception

the fact you think this shows you don;t understand this debate at all

what about women who are raped? babies conceived due to abuse or incest? babies conceived in abusing violent relationships?

No reality i wont fuck off no need for that, i cant help the way i feel.

I am starting to realise now why some poeple terminate

and you really had not thought about it before, but started a thread about not agreeing with it?

bizarre

and such a contentious and potentially upsetting topic

you claim to be sad about this, but i think you have had an empathy bypass to have got this far and thought abortions were just like contraception .

"I just dont think it is right to terminate a unwanted pregnancy"

And you have every right to have that opinion but if you want everyone to respect your right to have that opinion have the balls to post under your own name. Troll or not, you are a twat.