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to be utterly devastated that my middle aged, middle class sister has just revealed to me

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shockedsister · 07/07/2009 16:25

... that she was held for two nights in a police cell four years ago, on suspicion of the attempted murder of ex DP? I can't believe that she has carried this secret on her own and not told anyone in our family until last night.

She's now in pieces since discovering that a new change in the law (brought in in response to the Soham murders) means that this charge will appear on her CRB disclosure - and she's a teacher who is totally devoted to her work.........

Apparently the incident happened a year after they got together, after he discovered she was planning to leave him. The family knew she'd been the victim of domestic violence, as the police had been called to her flat several times in the first few months of their relationship. He'd broken her nose and pulled clumps of her hair out, threatened to burn her flat down. I also suspect that he sexually abused her, but I haven't had the courage to ask her. We were desperate for her to leave him but instead they moved away to the coast and things seemed to go quiet. She told us that he'd got counselling and was determined not to do it again.

What I now know is that although he'd stopped physically abusing her he'd carried on bullying her in other ways, and she'd decided to leave. When he found out he locked her in their flat and launched a sustained attack on her through the night. She insists that he got stabbed by accident, that the knife was stuffed down the side of the sofa - she was intending to open the door with it when he was asleep, and that it injured him in the middle of the night when he jumped over the back of the sofa, head butted her and bit her face.

I'm not sure what to believe. I wouldn?t blame her if she had stabbed him. He?s a horrible, horrible man, with a history of abusing women (though no charges or convictions - which means he can continue to practice as a lawyer). His ex wife used to sleep with a claw hammer under the pillow, and when she finished the relationship she had to leave her house under police escort.

After what happened with my sister he ended up in intensive care for 3 days but refused to bring charges against her. The police documented her injuries and wanted her to bring charges against him for assault but she also refused.

Apparently he used this incident to stop her leaving him for the next four years, while he spent his way through the equity of her flat which she?d sold when they?d moved away from London. He told her that if she left him he?d tell my elderly parents (who my sister adores) that she?d been arrested for attempted murder.

Over those four years she turned from a slim, beautiful, successful woman of independent means (she was earning 40K a year as a senior teacher in London and owned her own flat), into an overweight drinker with terrible low self-esteem.

She did finally work up the strength to leave him last year, and he didn?t tell my parents about what had happened. He didn?t care any more ? he?d used her up and lost interest.

But my poor sister has carried this burden on her own all this time. And now she is terrified her career as a teacher ? the only thing in her life which she still has which is important to her can?t continue.

Sorry for the long post and I?m not sure what response I?m looking for. I just feel so sad that my sister has carried this worry on her own all this time.

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catinthehat2 · 07/07/2009 18:47

Please feel free to report and have deleted any or all of my previous 3 posts. I have separated them so each point can be considered individually.

shockedsister · 07/07/2009 18:49

Sorry - shinoncrazydiamond, if they both insisted it was an accidental injury (as she says it was) then would charges still be pressed just because the injury was a serious one?

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edam · 07/07/2009 19:06

Shocked, so sorry for your sister. Sounds as if she may not be telling you the full story about what happened with the cops, though.

shockedsister · 07/07/2009 19:08

Hmmm.

I feel worried now that she's been keeping stuff from me.

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Northernlurker · 07/07/2009 19:14

Whether she's been keeping stuff from you or not the basic facts still stand we can assume - she was arrested but not convicted and it sounds like there are provisions in place to prevent that incident from having an unfair impact on her life and career. I think that's all you need to worry about. You can't go back in time and help her, you can't stop this from ever having happened, all you can do is be there now and she has let you in to the story now.

MrsMcCluskey · 07/07/2009 19:17

Shine I am a DC too and this doesnt sound quite right to me either.
Not accusing poster of being a troll but not sure your sister is telling youo everything...

foxyiscuttingALLherhairoff · 07/07/2009 19:20

i think any arrest stays on your record for enhanced disclosure.

however this i don't think should preclude her from continuing her career. i should think some of the advice about contacting the union for extended help, seeing her gp for mental health issues, even rape crisis etc can help her move forward in a constructive way. does she work in a school with good staff support network?

my understanding is that a disclosure like means that she would have to discuss the issues around her arrest before she is denied a post. hence why getting outside agencies involved as a way of getting past this evil man and securing her future. good luck to her. i hope she realises one day that she has a loving sis like you to lean on from now on.

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PeedOffWithNits · 07/07/2009 19:29

Tango Romeo Oscar Lima Lima... ha ha Love it

(my sentiments exactly, there is something very odd about this whole story. If Op not making it up the sister must be)

AnyFucker · 07/07/2009 19:31

shiney, you are marvellous

shockedsister · 07/07/2009 19:33

Well as I said in my OP - I wasn't sure what to believe about the incident. I do know her dp had abused her regularly in the past and that he is a dangerous person. I also know that both of them are heavy drinkers.

But I also know that in the 40 years before she met this man my sister never had a smudge on her character (and only started drinking after she got together with him).

I wish I could trust her to tell me the whole truth about what happened, but I'm not sure I can.

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Northernlurker · 07/07/2009 19:40

Your sister has been through a traumatic time - repeated violence and abuse over years. I think it's possible that she doesn't actually know what happened then. She may know what she hopes happened - that it was an accident but how true that is - even she may not actually be able to distinguish now.

I really don't think it's vital for you to know that tbh. Unless you think your sister is a danger to others or to herself then you just need to help her pick her way through this situation not worry too much about the past.

MrsMcCluskey · 07/07/2009 19:59

with regards to the enhanced crb check the disclosure unit of the Police force local to the authority requesting the check will porvide details and the outcomes of the incident in which your sister was involved.
I would imagine that she will be allowed to provide her version of events.
It will not necessarily make her 'unemployable'.

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AnyFucker · 07/07/2009 20:16

reality is also marvellous

I have had wine

sorry to hijack, OP, you sound like a lovely person who feels powerless in the face of your sis's horrific story

speak to her again, and try not to shy away from the details, as you really cannot help her if you are not brave enough to listen to them all

she is trying to protect you I think, and that is a burden she does not need

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