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To remove the toy baby feeding bottle from my dd's new doll bath and feeding set?

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Springfleurs · 30/05/2009 15:23

I was brought up to think that breast feeding was a strange and rather disgusting thing to do.

Luckily managed to overcome this myself and b/f both dc for 5 months and 14 months respectively.

Took dd to a toy shop today and she chose a doll bath and feeding set. Unpacked it for her when we got in and there is a feeding bottle in there. I know it might seem a bit precious but it irritated me slightly, as though it was a mandatory piece of equipment for all babies/dolls.

Or

I am taking it all rather too seriously?

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wastingmyeducation · 01/06/2009 14:25

Misrepresenting what people have said in order to win the argument is poor debating and evidence to me that Nancy et al don't have any real arguments here, just twisting what others say.

gabygirl · 01/06/2009 14:26

"just that there is an intensity about feeding a baby (even with a bottle) that is very pleasurable, and other people get to experience that"

Hmmm.... if you were doing a 'pro's' and 'cons' weigh up for bf vs ff, from the baby's POV 'making Uncle Fred feel nice' would come fairly low down on the list compared to 'having loads of skin to skin contact between mum and baby' and 'lifelong health benefits...'.

LadyThompson · 01/06/2009 14:26

You have an overwhelming urge, in your own words.

I was paraphrasing - summing up what you said. That's what happens in a debate. Didn't you know?

LadyThompson · 01/06/2009 14:27

WME - plugging duff stats - and that's good debating, is it?

TubOfLardWithInferiorRange · 01/06/2009 14:28

Leonie-sounds like you agree with me then that mothers should feed their own babies!

I was a girl in States in the '60's. I had/still have actually, a Pebbles Doll. She had a plastic bone in her hair and a bottle in her mouth most of the time. I no longer have the bone or the bottle and used neither with my own children.

LeonieSoSleepy · 01/06/2009 14:29

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Nancy66 · 01/06/2009 14:29

yes, leonie that is so very different you're right!!

So you want to remove the baby from its mother and breastfeed it. Not snatch, that's fine then.

WME - was just pointing out that a handful of posters on here do their cause no favours and the majority appear ot agree.

screamingabdab · 01/06/2009 14:31

Gaby How about making the child's father feel nice and get to look into his son's eyes for extended periods?

I will step away from this thread now,because I am most aware that anything I say sounds defensive.

What I would say, is that there should be more support for breastfeeding in the early days.

sunfleurs · 01/06/2009 14:31

LT, would you get a grip, seriously?

I can't imagine for one minute that Leonie would snatch an infant from its mother and forced breast feed it. She is clearly passionate about breastfeeding, I don't actually see any malice in her posts.

You, on the other hand I would prefer not to engage with as you have been by far one of the most aggressive posters on this thread.

wastingmyeducation · 01/06/2009 14:31

Thinking a major world body who's main interest is promoting health would lie, (for what reason?), seems frankly ridiculous to me.

And as I said, I brought up that particular figure because you doubted that many children suffered ill health due to not being breastfed. Which you still haven't explained fully.

gabygirl · 01/06/2009 14:33

"Um, I think Nestle's aggressive marketing might have slightly more to do with it than Tiny Tear's bottle, to be fair@Leonie."

Maybe, maybe not. These things are hard to quantify. I certainly think that encouraging children to role play bottlefeeding, and to assume that bottles are essential accessories for babies is unhelpful to them seeing breastfeeding as the normal way to feed babies in later life, particularly when they are brought up in a society where breastfeeding is more or less invisible in real life and in the media, unless their own mothers are breastfeeding younger children at home

"The complete change in women's role in society over the last century must surely have affected bf-ing rates, too, no?"

Women have always had to work. And in the UK today the women who are least likely to breastfeed are also those who are least likely to go back to work, or to EVER have worked. The women most likely to go back to work are also most likely to continue breastfeeding, and to breastfeed for longest.

"I know loads of women who breastfed happily until they went back to work and then couldn't be doing with the faff of expressing, so switched to formula."

Most women go back to work when their babies are 6 months +. By this time only a very small minority of babies are still being breastfed anyway.

""They weren't ignorant / evil SMA-lovers. They were working women with a range of priorities, is all."

Nobody here has called ff 'evil'.

scottishmummy · 01/06/2009 14:33

i love seeing a wee baby cuddling up to mummy,regardless of how it is fed.it is that unique bonding that shapes solid secure relationship

children need love,attachment,affirmation that comes from good parenting regardless of feeding mode.neither mode of feeding guarantees good psychological mental health and social development

there is more to parenting than initial mode of feeding. much much more

when our children prepare for life events and milestones eg 1st job,uni they wont be asked how they were fed

hey Barack before the inaguration just gotta ask how were you fed.... NOT

SouthMum · 01/06/2009 14:33

I for one don't think wetnursing is weird, I think its lovely to want to feed someone elses baby. I think the factor was your post sounded like you just had to wrench these poor little souls away from their evil teat-wielding mums who are simply pumping warfarin into their babies systems (or EBM, who knows).

LeonieSoSleepy · 01/06/2009 14:33

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Nancy66 · 01/06/2009 14:34

Unicef and WHO are notorious for cocking up their facts and figures....

screamingabdab · 01/06/2009 14:35

Sorry, can't keep away. There may be health consequences to formula feeding, but many of us have worked hard to minimise all other health risks in the following years of the DCs life.

LadyThompson · 01/06/2009 14:36

Sunfleurs: because I have taken objection to some made up figures which have been cited as fact?

Because someone thinks that ff is so wrong they want to take, remove, borrow - call it what you like - a ff baby from its mother to feed herself? It is a disgraceful thing to say. If you find my disgust at that view aggressive, that is your perogative.

LeonieSoSleepy · 01/06/2009 14:36

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screamingabdab · 01/06/2009 14:37

Agree with your 14:43 post scottishmummy

SouthMum · 01/06/2009 14:40

If anyone cares I have to go now, no matter where I move in the garden the sun is glaring off my laptop and is giving me free laser eye surgery......

Oh and DS needs feeding, Leonie can you sling us yer tits over here please

gabygirl · 01/06/2009 14:40

"Gaby How about making the child's father feel nice and get to look into his son's eyes for extended periods?"

Don't most men do this when they cuddle and bath their babies? My DH did.

gabygirl · 01/06/2009 14:40

"Gaby How about making the child's father feel nice and get to look into his son's eyes for extended periods?"

Don't most men do this when they cuddle and bath their babies? My DH did.

LadyThompson · 01/06/2009 14:41

WME - no - you said many children in the Uk are 'getting ill' as a result of ff and I basically said that I thought this was an overstatement. And you brought up that figure, which they actually SAY is an estimation, and it is just not believable.

And Leonie, I don't think bf is at all creepy, I make that very clear. Lots of my friends bf and I support their decision, just as they support my decision not to. What is 'creepy' is talk of removing ff infants from their mothers to feed yourself.

scottishmummy · 01/06/2009 14:41

leonie there is a line between impassioned campaigner and pedantic zealot maybe try be less verbose

and you unfortunately come across on this thread as a tub thumping judgey scary monomaniac

clearly this topic pushes your buttons

LeonieSoSleepy · 01/06/2009 14:42

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