To think that if you cannot afford free range chicken/turkey meat and eggs...

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...then don't buy at all?

I mean the suffering these birds go through in cramped, dirty sheds is unbelievable. There is usually no natural light and the birds are usually ill before they're culled.

If you can stomach it, please look at these:
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Some people are brilliant at feeding families on small amounts of cash. It does take other resources though. You need to have time and be able to cook and have family members who are easy going about food. I find it hard to understand that some people can't follow a recipe in a library book but I'm sure it can be the case. I have a friend who is a health visitor and she has said that in some of the houses she visits, fresh food just isn't bought. It's still a mean spirited original post though.

You did read my post wrong Bronze. We did just what you say; put a bar over the neck and stamp on the bar (not the head).

"that you will never fall on very hard time and then get judged because of the fact that you are still trying to feed your family on a non vegan/vegetarian diet."

Don't assume anything about people's backgrounds.

And if you want to eat crap meat, regardless of your income, then eat it. I'm not wanting to stop anyone from doing that. Your choice.

But there are alternatives to crap meat and if you don't want your family to eat crap because you don't have enough money, then you can.

Yes, expat, obviously in the case of starvation and death of a child over chicken life the kid wins.

In most other cases people shouldn't choose to cause suffering to animals.

I don't live in a particularly well off area infact would say is kind of in te middle, after I had DS I was offered a place on a cookery class for teen mums because I was'nt exactly a cook and did'nt want my child to be brought up on "junk food", I assumed this was standard in all areas.?!

Anyway out of the 25 mums signed up to go, myself and 2 other girls went for the 12 weeks, it was only 2 hours once a week they ahd a creche and everything it was great EXCEPT the fact that they don't assess people individually and assume everyone knows nothing at all. Our first week we spent 2 hours making a boiled egg, scrambled eggs on toast and french toast!

I never once learned how to make anything proper like a roast dinner or even mashed potatoes instead it was eggy stuff like above, pasta bake (one kind), mince and mashed potatoes (that one was fair enough) and the big finally was a curry made using a bloody little tin of sauce oh and smoothies.

The reason for the above food was because they assumed that none of us would have money for proper dinners like roasts etc.

If taht's the kind of stuff they are teaching young peope then how the heck are we meant to be able to knock up a decent dinner from scratch and I can actually count the amount of veg they used on one hand!

My DP and DS are very, very fussy so none of it is much use to me but I'd love more recipes I could make in advance and something that was cheap but unfortunately it does'nt work that way for us.

Oh that should read mince and boiled potatoes not masheed

A couple of posts now have mentioned about deprived areas and how in some households fresh food just doesn't feature but not all of us who can't afford to buy decent meat are like this!

I don't buy frozen chicken nuggets, I make my own (even if it is from cheaper chicken), I make my own burgers from the best mince that I can afford. I can certainly follow a recipe and cook most of our meals from scratch!

I'm still waiting for ideas to feed my fussy children because trust me, it isn't as easy as it sounds to just replace meat with pulses etc!

yes Lucia? I can store if I have an excess... I don't !
You don't really think you think your commercial egg producer is storing eggs do you?? or do you reckon they are stimulating the birds with light into thinking it's suitable laying conditions all year?..

As someone that always buys free range and organic food and eats a healthy balanced diet with loads of fruit and veg and was once a vegetarian... YABVU.

In order for 2 adults (DH and I) eat to health meals each day we spend about £100 per week, there are a lot of people that just can't afford that it'd utterly ignorant to say that only people with a big enough income can eat meat.

blimey sleepy what are you eating?

A free range chicken here (Australia) big enough for a family of 4 starts at approx $12. A non free range is around $5.

6 Eggs FR = $7
6 Eggs not FR = $3

Thiss thread is making me crave chicken noodle soup.

Thiss thread is making me crave chicken noodle soup.

I'm craving it so badly that I had to say so twice.

what is an Australian dollar worth in pounds?

"Why do people keep going on about ops lack of children? There has been plenty of people on this thread agreeing with her who do have children."

I've seen posters with DCs (like myself) agreeing that that is what they do themselves.
I think the OPs problem is that she is telling other people what they should be doing.

I know which I prefer out of this and this

paisley then why not say that, thats all

I would prefer to buy decent meat but I can't afford it! Which bit of this are people finding confusing?

Bronz nothing out of the ordinary honestly!

I make everything from scratch and DH works from home so I make him a proper cooked lunch each day.
Each week I buy a least 2 packs of chicken breasts, 2 packs of mince, sausages,everything for a roast dinner,fish, nice bread, some milk, eggs, loads of salad vegetables, veg for soup, general dinner veg, loads of fruit, cheese.
It's all free range or organic. BUT it's a luxury to eat that way if we need to tighten our belts the first thing we would do is cut our food budget.

TBH I find the veg and fruit more expensive than the meat.

We used to use an axe when I was growing up. One of us kids would hold the chicken and dad would cut it's head off.

GetOrf - I appreciate your point but this issue is generational and it really does need to be addressed given the long-term health risks associated with poor diet.

As to cook books - didn't Delia produce a basic "how to do it" book a few years ago? Of course any book presupposes a degree of comprehension and literacy on the part of the reader!

In response to ingles2 - sorry I assumed you were a smallholder or were interested in keeping hens.

Gorionine, $12 - 5.90gpb.

Which makes it roughly $2.04 to the pound.

Which actually sounds quite cheap for a chicken, but then you have to realise that wages here are lower too.