this sort of thing should be a criminal offence?

[Springfleurs]

Today rushing up the tube stairs with heavy two year old in a buggy, I nudged a man coming down. He immediately shouted agressively "WATCH IT!" I said "just trying to get this tube", he shouted "STUPID FUCKING COW!". I just looked at him him in shock, he then called me "a stupid fcking cnt" followed by telling me "there are too many f*cking kids in this world anyway, need to get rid of some", meaning dd in her buggy.

All this abuse because I nudged him with a buggy handle as I rushed for a tube.

I felt utterly helpless and humiliated. No-one said anything, although one man helped me get the buggy the rest of the way up and patted me on the shoulder as I was crying. I feel like shit, as bad I think as if he had punched me. Felt so helpless as well, there was absolutely nothing I could do except listen to it right in front of my dd. What else can you do? Not illegal is it as far as I know to disgustingly, verbally abuse a defenceless woman and toddler?

what a pig. Some people are just unbelievable.

How upsetting but did you actually say sorry to him?

Oh poor you, what an utterly vile and repellant man.
No wonder you were upset.

What a absoloute tosser. Sorry to tell you this, but there are lots of them out there.

Forget about it, he's a shitty excuse for a human being and it sounds as if everyone else thought so too, but as usual, were too afraid of confrontation to say/do anything.

Hope your afternoon was better and your DD not too upset.

That is a criminal offence, it's called "causing harassment, alarm or distress" or something like that.

It is a criminal offence - it's at the very least a section five public order offence - usually punishable by a PND (a ticket and a fine) - he's caused harassment alarm and distress to you.

x post tattifer.

How awful. There are alot of these sorts of people out there though. Sometimes I want to yell something along the lines of "Your mother must be some kind of hero"
There's a woman that lives near me somewhere, I always see her in the street or on the bus and she always goes into a mini panic when she sees the pushchair and starts yelling for me to keep it away from her! I was in the middle of the road on one occasion so nowhere near her! Mental

I don't think I did say sorry, because I didn't actually feel the buggy nudge him, so it didn't occur to me to apologise. I was way squashed into the wall on the right hand side to allow everyone to get down. When he started shouting I was trying to explain to him what I was doing, which I am sure would have been followed by an apology if I could have got the words out.

That is vile.

My SIL (lovely BTW) was heavily pregnant whilst travelling on tube and a grade A twat stood on her foot, on purpose, and hissed at her that it was "her own fault and she had got herself into this mess". WTF?

There are still a lot of misogynist about.

Have a cup of tea and a biscuit and do not waste anymore energy thinking about this idiot.

If he had said something like "Oh that hurt" or "oh careful", I would immediately have apologised, didn't realise I had actually done anything till he roared at me.

It's just so awful how the tube does this to people (turns them into evil, murderous twats I mean).

I was once walking down the stairs of our tube station (escalator was broken) and I was taking up a bit of room, because my arm was broken and in a huge plaster. Anyway I obviously prevented this bloke from getting past and making his train and he called me a "selfish, fucking cow".

I screamed at him, at the top of my voice, "yes, a selfish fucking cow with a fucking broken arm".

He sounds very ignorant and aggressive - unfortunately it does seem to make some people feel better about their sad lifes to shout at other people.

I only asked if you'd said sorry as thought that may have been what triggered his crazy reaction.

He's a loon and its very sad that no-one else said anything but not surprising.

Have a glass of wine and relax.

I had similar experience at christmas with an evil delivery guy who made me cry - it upset me for quite a while as was just so surprised someone could be quite so mean.

Oh Crackfox, I remember being 8 months pregnant on a London bus once it was raining and the bus floor was wet. I had shopping so I asked the conducter (was one of the old Routemasters) to press the bell for me as I didn't want to be getting up until the bus had actually stopped in case I slipped. He replied "Do it yourfuckingself, you are just f*cking lazy!".

Try not to dwell on it. He must be a very unhappy person who was having a crap day. Feel glad that you only met him for a minute - he has to live with himself for the rest of his life.

i had a similar experience in the last month and i couldnt believe someone could be so mean, too. i was really, really shocked and distressed and upset.
what goes on in their minds?
what kind of people are they?
how they get on with their life if they act that way?

What a silly man, I come away from actions like this and think to myself - than goodness I dont have to go home to him and smile to myself. It makes me fell better at that moment someone has been nasty.

Thats interesting to know shineoncrazydiamond, I didn't realise it was. Do you think he would have waited while I called the police? .

i'm just impressed you were rushing up stairs with a two year old in a buggy!

don't mind him, some people are just looking to spout their anger and unhappiness at the slightest chance.

i've been on the receiving end way too many times - the worst was a guy on the tube who on his way out of the car sneezed directly in my face (on purpose), spraying yellow phlegm all over me! i was quietly reading a magazine the entire journey so who knows what that was about ...

thankfully some kind souls around me had some tissues and i didn't catch any diseases!

I had a little fantasy on the way home of my massive rugby playing mate being a few steps behind me without this horrible man realising and what might have ensued? Obviously glad he wasn't but it comforted me somewhat .

He should try this at Tottenham Hale where I live. He'd get his fucking head kicked in (including by any lone mum he tried to start on).

in london - i don;t know who would care, but i actually think that is threatening behaviour and if i was shouted at and abused in my small home town, then i would report it to the police.

What must that poor man's life be like that he behaved in such a vile manner to someone who nudged him (though you ought to have said sorry, if he said WATCH IT like that then you had obviously bumped him) with a buggy. You can ignore his horrendous behaviour and put it behind you, he has to live with himself. I'd rather be in your shoes than his.

Though it's nice to hear you immediately experienced kindness when another man helped you up the stairs and tried to comfort you as you were obviously upset.