To use the disabled loo to avoid sitting on turds?

[HellHathNoFury]

I was in Sainsburys earlier and in the queue for the loo. I was desperate and waited for a while. Eventually it was my turn, and this little old lady hobbled out and so I went in and saw she had left a whole actual nugget of a turd on the toilet seat.
At the back.

I am PG and it was not something I needed to see so I backed out and legged it off to the disabled loo.

When I came out I was told off by a man in a wheelchair for using the disabled loo. Couldn't be bothered to explain turd incident. Just walked off.

AIBU?

Selfish means being only concerned for your own interests doesn't it? And isn't that exactly what you are being?

We're not saying we want to use all the loos all the time exclusively for the able bodied, just that if one is empty then no one needs to queue!

Try to see it from someone else's perspective.

Well, that was my first post on this, saint2shoes - maybe if anytime someone finds themselves inconvenienced by inconvenient conveniences they fire off a complaint to the company concerned...

It seems to me that if there's any agreement on this thread, it's that we could all do with public toilets being improved.

So that disabled people can get at suitable facilities without having to queue behind some selfish bugger who can't be arsed waiting AND so that (eg) enormously pg people with a baby AND a toilet-training toddler AND shopping don't have to perform unnecessary contortions in tiny cubicles.

Sorry I know your being serious but me and my DH are laughing our heads off...
Thats the funiiest post i've seen for ages!!!! LOL

You are NOT being unreasonable x I wouldnt wanna sit on a seat with fresh shite on it. I would've gone to use the disabled loo.
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You don't have to be registered disabled to need to use a disabled loo. I cba to explain again about the varying needs people have but I do have a legitimately obtained radar key.

GoodbyeClement i am not selfish.........you can have dd's disability for free.

but as other people have said, what if a disabled person is already using the loo? how is that different from an able bodied person being in there?

and how do you feel about lifts, while you're at it?

saint, that's not relevant is it? it just makes you sound irrational.

Herbietea... she wanted to have a wee in a clean toilet... She would've only been in for a few minutes.

Would it bother you if you had to wait for a disabled person then???

I think disabled people are sometimes very rude and unreasonable...

Today I parked my car in Tesco and someone was pulling out of a disbaled space... there was a car waiting to get in it and without warning a little old disabled lady drove really really fast into the spot... I couldn't believe what I saw!!!!

RUDE I say RUDE!!!

Legally, no 'accessible loo' is only for the use of people with a disability. It is simply there to ensure that those of us with a disability can access a loo. If it fills constantly with people who could use the other loos and therefore causes disabled people a problem, then that's the point where something has to be done. But unless we police each cubicle and demand doctor's proof of disability, I think we just have to be reasonable about our comments.

I don't look disabled, but I often have to use the accessible loo because of arthritis and ASD issues. I think some people do imagine accessible loos are for wheelchairs only but wheelchair users are only a very small fraction of all disabilities.

I was absolutely mortified the other day..I was about to go into the toilets when a cleaner appeared and told me he was closing them, and to use the disabled one. The store was practically empty so I popped in.

When I emerged there was no sign of the cleaner but an annoyed looking woman in a wheelchair waiting outside, having read such threads on Mumsnet I felt awful...and a bit nervous.

Im with DSM on this one. Wheelchair accessible toilets are just saying "This is a public toilet that will accomodate a wheelchair" not "DISABLED PEOPLE ONLY PLEASE".

Tho if there is a normal toilet and a disabled both poo free and vacant id use the normal toilet just in case a wheelchair person did come along.

Altho , i have no idea how it would be to be disabled and i possibly might have a different view if i was....

It would really suck if you were disabled, and the only disabled toilet had a big log on the seat and you were really busting..

Riven I think they are quite happy to let the disabled rights campainers do all the hard work and then take the hard won stuff away from the disabled.(except the disability of course)

I hope that when certain posters acquire a disability (and yes, anyone can, at any time), which means that they need to use the disabled loo (and may not have the luxury of being able to hold everything in, meaning that accidents are an unfortunate possibility) they will smile sympathetically as able-bodied people run in front of them for the disabled loo.

I asked my DH about this and he told me that at his work if a person with children comes along and asks for the key to the disabled toilet he lets them in.

Do you think I should ask him to get his company to look at their policy if this is happening? he says all his colleagues do it too.

I'm really confused about how to tell if a toilet is disabled only or if other people can use it - one minute I think I've got it and then it all changes again.

If it has a disabled sign on the door don't use it - is that right?

saint - I think you are far too personally biased in this to make a rational argument.

I don't think it is fair to suggest that just because someone isn't disabled, they don't know what it is like. My sister is disabled, I have lived with it my whole life. I do know how hard it is.

Disabled parking spaces are for blue badge holders only.
Disabled toilets are public toilets, there for everyone. A disabled person has no more right to them than anyone else. Thankfully, it is now a legal requirement for a public premise to have an accessible toilet. It is not solely there for the use of disabled people.

Disabled people do not necessarily need quicker access to a toilet. Some do, and some perfectly able bodied people do as well. Some people in wheelchairs have bladder issues. Some don't. Some ND people have bladder issues, some don't. The wheelchair thing, is irrelevant.

I would, however, in a queue of say, 10 people, if there were a few standard cubicles and one accessible one, and someone in a wheelchair was waiting, I would let them go ahead of the queue, given that the other 9 people can pee in any cubicle that becomes free, thus reducing their waiting time. The wheelchair user has to wait for the accessible one, therefore they can skip a few places in front. I wouldn't, ever, suggest leaving it constantly empty incase someone in a wheelchair comes along. That is ridiculous.

DSM- I think you are far too personally biased in this to make a rational argument.

I do get why this issue gets heated.

But god, when I was pregnant, there was no way I could have simply wiped a turd into the loo. I'd have thrown up all over the floor, which would certainly have rendered it unusable and shunted even more people to the disabled loos. When I was changing ds's nappy I had to do it by the loo so I could throw up. And when you are bursting for a pee, there isn't neccesarily time to find someone to clean it away for you.

I think it's a bit unreasonable to get heated over this particular misuse of the facilities.

Can anyone please answer my questions from a couple of posts ago? Dh is interested to know if he is doing it wrong and so am I!