To use the disabled loo to avoid sitting on turds?

[HellHathNoFury]

I was in Sainsburys earlier and in the queue for the loo. I was desperate and waited for a while. Eventually it was my turn, and this little old lady hobbled out and so I went in and saw she had left a whole actual nugget of a turd on the toilet seat.
At the back.

I am PG and it was not something I needed to see so I backed out and legged it off to the disabled loo.

When I came out I was told off by a man in a wheelchair for using the disabled loo. Couldn't be bothered to explain turd incident. Just walked off.

AIBU?

sadly bella there are some people who think they are so special they actually buy, yes go out and BUY a radar key specifically so that they can abuse a facility designed for the disabled.

Mamazon if you can't cope maybe all these threads should be put in a special forum where you can hide them.

I will say it again since you clearly misunderstood. If there are two loos and one is marked disabled then a non-disabled person should use the non-disabled loo. If another non-disabled comes along they should use the diabled one. Then if a disabled person comes along with a non-disabled friend they both have to wait the same length of time.

Why do you think disabled people should not have to wait for the commoners to get out of their way? Are you some kind of royalty now?

mamazon the toilets are not just for those with a disability, i have been told by my doctor to get a radar key, and i am not disabled, will c&p my post from above as people like me seem to fall into the catagory of cant win.

i have a bowel problem that means on occasion if i have to go, i have to go straight away (sorry tmi) if there is a queue for the loo's i will use the disabled one, and have once been confronted by a person in a wheelchair about it. i do not consider myself disabled but equally am not prepared to not make it to the loo in time if the disabled one is empty. i also dont see why i should have to explain my bowel problems to somebody just because they happen to be in a wheelchair. tollerance goes both ways. just as those with a blue badge aren't always in a wheelchair, neother are those using a disabled toilet.

so bearing in mind the above what should i do?

Back to original OP

Grow up
Get a piece of tissue
Knock turd into toilet
Flush
Use toilet yourself and save disabled loos for those who really need them

I cannot believe this ie even worth a post or upsetting others over

im not disabled. but my son is autistic and has difficulty realising e needs the toilet until the very last moment.
my father is disabled and it takes him ages to get to the toilets and by the time he does he needs to go.

if you have a debilitating condition then yes of course you should use the disabled facilities.

Onegar - im neither blind nor stupid. i am perfectly capable of reading your very simplistic view of the world.
or is being patronising now part of the debate?

it is ignorant and selfish to use a ficiality that you have no need to.

In the ante-natal department at my hospital I have just realised that I have been using the toilet when i shouldn't. There are two and they both have disabled facilities and a sticker.

I will ask at reception where the nearest non disabled toilet is.

it's the same at my GP and I asked them but they said to use it anyway although obviously I feel bad about doing that.

Maybe there should be clear signage to indicate who can use what and when, and whether they have to be registered disabled, or there are exceptions for pregnant people etc.

This is obviously a minefield.

so bearing in mind its probably ok if i use the loo is it ok for somebody else to question why i have used it?

Sometimes the only toilet is multi purpose - ie suitable for disabled but non-disabled can use it too (because it's the only toilet!) They're "accessible" rather than "disabled"

How does the signage differ soupy?

Thanks.

I have only ever used the disabled toliets when I have the buggy with me, and therfore can't fit in a cubicle, or if they are the only toilets with baby-change facilites. Although if I found a turd on the toilet I would use a different one, even if the only 1 available was disabled. Other than that I always queue to use toilets and not use disabled, TBH I have never thought of it as a toilet that we can use to stop us having to queue. I don't think I am explaining very well, so probably don't make any sense!

I don't think it does. Personally, as a rule of thumb I'd say if a loo is locked via a radar key it is clearly disabled only, if it is the only toilet in the vicinity or has baby changing in it, it is likely to be accessible and if it is next to normal facilities it is disabled only.

onagar wow you are so jealous

By onagar on Sat 18-Apr-09 16:04:01
Actually 2shoes it was the man in a wheelchair who started it by claiming no one else had a right to use it.

HellHathNoFury was the op, did you not read it?
maybe you need a spesial forum

Disabled toilets are not kept locked, requiring a RADAR key, to stop non-disabled people using them - it's to prevent vandalism.

Most disabled toilets are now called accessible toilets imo - many have baby change facilities in them.

It is a perennial problem going to the toilet with a pushchair - you either have to go to the accessible toilet, or leave the child and buggy unattended outside the cubicle in the ladies, or balance a child on your knee.

If you are a man with a baby, you need the baby change not to be in the ladies toilet.

The solution imo is to have separate 'disabled' and 'accessible' toilets - one is specifically for people with disabilities (and potentially need quick access and more space) and one for people who simply need more room. I personally think that having a buggy shouldn't prohibit you from being able to go to the toilet in a safe and dignified way, but obviously you don't want to be making life impossible for someone else.

As far as the toilet seat goes - I'd probably have asked a member of staff to clean it tbh.

It is ignorant and selfish to want a facility reserved and others excluded when the worse you would need to do is wait while one person finished. Which you would need to do anyway if a disabled person was in there.

And I took the tone of my post from yours mamazon.

Btw if you are technically disabled, but you can manage a standard loo you should do so (unless it is in use) or you might be causing someone to wait who has a genuine difficulty. Same for disabled parking. It's not a free pass to anything you want.

i wouldn't dream of using the disabled loo as i am not disabled it would feel wrong to do this.
I use the mothers with pushchairs/disabled loo now though and at my local M & S it has a sign saying this toilet is only for disabled or mothers with pushchairs.
Alot of the time disabled people can't stand for very long so i don't think they should have to queue cos an able bodied person couldn't be bothered to queue

lou that is what Iwanted to say but for some reason couldnt word it right!

Saint2shoes, The guy had a go at a stranger and he had no legal or moral right to do so. There are troublemakers everywhere - or do you think a disabled sticker makes people above law and decency?.

Thanks soupy.

What about when it's in a row of cublices ie not separate? IME people queue and use the disabled one/s (usually an end one or two) in their turn with the non disabled toilets.

What is the correct procedure here?

i think its reasonable to question someones right to use a facility that you are being prevented from using legitimatly.

if your not disabled then you don't use a disabled toilet.
if the ladies were full it wouldn't even enter your head to use the gents so why is it any different?

in that case bella i think they are just accessible cubicles and are open to all but priority shold be given to someone with a need.

Debs40
LOL

So it's my fault that people are upset?
'Worth a post'?

I have seen threads started over more inane things

I just wondered what the general consensus was over disabled loos, I see it's quite an individual thing, some share my views, some don't, sorry if you are 'upset'

So, i think we're nearly there. Finally some resolution on this topic.

If you are not registered disabled, you may not use a disabled only toilet.

You can tell a disabled only toilet as it is separate from the other facilities and has a sign and/or a radar key.

The only exception would be where the toilet also had a baby changing facility and you were with a baby.

If it is reasonable to assume that there are other facilities in the area which may not be disabled then you should ask about them/go and find them (my hospital situation would be a good example of this - I can ask reception where the facilities for non disabled people are).

I think that's it!

Apart from the toilets and the parking are there any other services that are disabled only? the cashpoint issue seems to be moot at the moment, is there anything else to avoid?

not really. there are wide aisle at supermarkets which are designed to allwo wheelchairs through, but again they are not for teh sole use of wheelchair users and often if you have a pram or large buggy these are a godsend.

There are some things that are there to make the life of a disabled person a little easier and others, like the toilets and parking spaces that are a neccessity and should not be abused

Are there any others that are a necessity though marmazon? I can't think of any at the moment but I'm not disabled so probably haven't noticed.