to be highly pissed off that there are still men on Mumsnet?

[Swedes]

Tenacious little bastards, aren't they?

only a few men hang around, remember dominicoconnor

oh though iirc he was banned. was interesting though

BIWI - there's probably the same proportion of men with "dad" in their talknames as there are women with "mum" or "mama" or "mom" in their talknames

probably

"Sad that there is a need for somewhere that is 'for women'."

Well, I'm sad about that too. Really sad. But that's kind of out of our hands, you know. There is a need, because of how the rest of the world is.

But I don't feel enormously strongly about it at the moment. I've enjoyed talking to men on here.

And I might well enjoy it if MN became a totally dual-sex forum. But if it were to do so, it would no longer give me and others what MN currently does ie a predominantly female space, and I'd go looking for somewhere else that did. In addition.

You know, there's a huge pressure to be post-feminist

DMreaders

dammit

I do not read the Daily Mail. How very dare you!

I know exactly what you mean OBM, and the reasons for the sentiment - but that's what I find sad. That there is a need for it.

unless the name states dad etc how is one to know gender?

I suppose that the other thing, for me, is that MN is not about other women. It's about intelligent people. (OK, not everyone on here is, but you get my drift!)

but there is something of the DominiConnor in a few of the men that have a profile on this site. i actually thought UQD was DominiConnor [forgive me] so seamlessly did he slide into the role of deflating the nonsense of all those woolly crystal bearing [female] believers [ie anyone who has the slightest bit of interest in religion] I'm being a bit unfair, I quite liked DC and I like UQD too, but there do have a very similar manner [except UQD doesn't bang on about all priests being paedos] and I think that is an interesting phenomenon on a site that has so few men.

I've not heard any of the men here tell us why they are, and I'd be really interested to do so, really truly.

No-one's actually been brave enough to analyze themselves; I'd hugely respect anyone that did.

swedes - I came on here by accident to read the education threads and stuck around for a year just reading before I summoned up the courage to join.

Care to explain why you do not want us here? What is it about us you do not like?

Glad there are a few other Dads on here. At least we care enough to be bothered. After reading loads of posts from MN women complaining about the lack of interest from DH/DP in their kids, their home, and how he is semi detached we MN Dads should at least get a bit of respect surely?

Anyway I am not leaving so you are stuck with me (and the other Dads).

Swedes was joking, ABetaDad. After that other similar thread we were on.

Ah. I think that 'a bit of respect' bit is what makes me gag tbh. I refer you to my dp's earlier assessment of your possible motivations ..

PadDAD - yeah thats what I was hoping but some seem to be taking it quite seriously.

onebatmother - is your husband secretly a bit frightened something will happen to his masculinity if he joins?

Go on get him to sign up - he will enjoy it once he has penetrated the inner sanctum gets into it.

ABetaDad, well it's possible, but I suspect it's more likely that he's just happy as he is.

Also, as someone said a lot further up, I think he'd def feel that he was muscling in (equiv of joining all-female drinks evening) unless I asked him to join in.

Which he'd never do even if I begged.

Too busy making wooden things with his hands and generally, you know, providing

I've not read the posts, but, just wanted to say I found it the title particulary offensive.

My dad brought me up from when mum died when I was four. AND, though it sounds bigheaded, he did a FANTASTIC job, I grew up respecting elders, not drinking and not smoking.

BUT after hearing dad cry night after night, I am in NO doubt sure that he would have relished some sort of support and I can only wish that this site/internet had been sooner so that he could have had help/tips etc throughout which could have been the most difficult time of his life.

That's a very moving post, lms, and I'll think about what you've said.

I think people on MN would be very keen to help a poster like that, Lovemyshoes. your dad sounds amazing.

Lovemyshoes good post and good name

Thanks ladies, my dad was an amazing amazing man, he died suddenly and I think about him every day, though I cannot grieve for him, if I do it means he is gone IYKWIM (he died 7 years ago), I can only hope that I can instill a FRACTION of what he did to me, in my two DD's.

LMS - The thread was started as a joke. Sorry to cause offence.

I suppose in my tired state I should have either ignored or read through.

In any way no offense taken.

I don't think you've caused offense Swedes. Or if you have, I think it's in the cause of a debate that is certainly worth having. LMS's story is moving, but it shouldn't prevent us from discussing where lies the greater good.