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not to offer to pay the man who took my cat to be neutered without discussing it with me

279 replies

powpow · 25/03/2009 20:14

basically my cat came home last night neutered.
We had no idea what had happened or who had taken him.
I called 11 vets in the area until I found the one where it was done.
A neighbor has been feeding our cat and took him to be done. My cat broke through this guys catflap to come home to us where he feels safe. He wasn't missing. We saw him Monday night and he came home tuesday night.

Most of the cats running around the neighborhood have no collar but I would never take them to the vet unless they were hurt!
he said my cat has been coming around for a few months. He never once tried to find out who he belonged to.
We had taken off his collar because it kept getting tighter and tighter on his neck and getting caught on the fences.
But he was very obviously well taken care of, groomed and happy.
We were waiting a few more months to neuter him and would have taken him to the clinic that does it for free.
This guy paid £280.
I don't think I should have to pay for this.
AIBU?

OP posts:
Vulgar · 25/03/2009 22:20

There is a male cat with huge knackers that comes into our house and sprays EVERYWHERE. It fights with our 3 too and 2 of them have had abcesses as a result.

I must admit i have been tempted to take this cat to be neutered as I think it's owners are irresponsible. I wouldn't tho'. But I hate what it does in our house.

Sorrento · 25/03/2009 22:23

Well don't let him in your house then ?

Maybe because I have 4 other pedigree cats I'm a bit protective but I wouldn't entertain the idea of other peoples pets in my home I mean you wouldn't let a random dog in would you, seems a bit odd.

morningpaper · 25/03/2009 22:26

I agree with hangingbelly: if a cat had been turning up at my house for months and I was feeding it, and it had unattended medical issues and was not neutered - I might be at the stage of assuming it was mine!

morningpaper · 25/03/2009 22:27

I also have an un-neutered cat that comes in at night, bloody nightmare it is, I'd like to whack it's knackers off with a brick

Vulgar · 25/03/2009 22:33

Sorrento i have that thing which is called a CATFLAP.

i tried a cat flap with magnets and collars but my cats lose their collars so frequently that they were shut out and this made them more vunerable to attack unfortunately. I'm thinking of buying a flap which is operated by the microchip s in my cats but it is very expensive.

Now i shut the catflap at night but this cat still comes in.

morningpaper · 25/03/2009 22:34

I have THREE catflaps between the outside world and the house and I still have crazy-spraying-boy rampaging into the house at night ....

Grendle · 25/03/2009 22:35

YANBU to refuse to pay, even if asked -he chose to have it done.

The cost sounds v unreasonable.

However, if the cat is wandering in and out of someone else's house and has no collar, microchip or other identifying marks, then YABU to expect someone to track you down.

Buy a dog, they don't randomly try to behave like other people's pets and cause all these confusing situations .

edam · 25/03/2009 22:39

saying 'buy a dog' on a cat lovers' thread is fighting talk.

Grendle · 25/03/2009 22:42

Well, I already upset all the feminists, so why not the cat lovers too ...

Vulgar · 25/03/2009 22:50

Grendle

for the record, i don't think the OP should pay either but i think unneutered cats can cause a lot of misery for others.

the cat i mentioned previously sprayed up the side of my neighbour's child's Christening cake

Sorrento · 25/03/2009 22:51

Well Vulgar that's where you're going wrong then, I have this thing called a back door which my cats stratch if they want to come in, should anyone who's not mine try to enter they meet with my broom

Quattrocento · 25/03/2009 22:52

I think you should pay to be honest. Going against the grain here, I know. Actually, I think it's bang out of order not to pay.

  1. You say you were going to neuter the cat anyway
  2. The man did not know it was your cat because it was neither chipped nor collared
  3. He behaves responsibly and gets it neutered

I think you should pay and buy him some flowers for being considerate.

Vulgar · 25/03/2009 22:57

what do I do when I'm at work then?

Yurtgirl · 25/03/2009 22:58

I wouldnt pay!

It is your cat, you should,ve got it neutured but it was none of his business to take responsibility for someonelses cat without bothering to find out who it belongs to.

He should get his own cat

Perhaps he would like to adopt the cats that continually do their business in my garden

Yurtgirl · 25/03/2009 22:58

I wouldnt pay!

It is your cat, you should,ve got it neutured but it was none of his business to take responsibility for someonelses cat without bothering to find out who it belongs to.

He should get his own cat

Perhaps he would like to adopt the cats that continually do their business in my garden

Northernlurker · 25/03/2009 23:03

Well I like to think of myself as reasonable to the point of being damn soft - and even I wouldn't pay for this!

Had this man got your cat emergency treatment following an accident - then yes you should be grateful and pay - but neutering is an elective procedure and represents a decision he had no right to make. I'm horrified also by the number of people who have had cats lured away. Over the years we've had a few cats come calling and whilst we liked to let them in and admire them (no pets so good chance for the kids to see an animal in their home setting) we never gave them so much as a sip of milk let alone regular food and medical attention.

CKelpie · 25/03/2009 23:12

I think you should have had him neutered earlier - certainly before letting him go 'visiting' your neighbours. A full Tom is a bloody nuisance whether it's a stray or a pet.

You are not being unreasonable to not want to pay the full amount he has given but I personally believe you are obliged to contribute (get a local quote) as it was your responsibility to have it done when you got the animal.

bumpybecky · 25/03/2009 23:17

I've got a dog, a big black lab x collie and still get random cats coming in through the cat flap! there have been at least 3 regular offenders too

locking the cat flap just makes it more expensive - persistant dog-loving feline intruders have broken the blasted cat flap twice

they must realy like our house......

oopsagain · 25/03/2009 23:46

I think the cost depends on where the OP lives in the world.

There'a alot fo people who say "oh, that's excessive ... etc" and then say what their cat neuter cost.

Down south surgery rents/wages/blah/blah cost alot more- so if OP is in Central london then maybe that's not so unusual....

and i would say that letting an un- neutered cat roam free is not a good idea. The cat is more likely to get involved in fights, damage other catss and get damaged himslef.
he is more likely to catch FIV (simailr to HIV) and to get other cats pregnant.
Unneutered cats are more likely to get involed in road accidents in which they get hurt or people get injured whilst trying to avoid them- they are just more likely to roam and get involved in more sscrapes etc.

Retained testicles are likey to become cancerous and twist round and cause BIG problems later in life.

and not to have any ID isn't the best idea.

But- the man should havhe asked around and found out if anyone owned the cat before taking him to be neutered.

I still can't work out whether or not he has asked you to pay- maybe you can get a breakdown of the bill- ie blood tests pre op and decide what you would have paid had you been deciding on the surgery...

I'm not sure the best way forward with this- but he has done your cat a favour by sorting him out...

and to the poster who says tht the cat doesn't need more than a long acting injection- you don't actually know what happened duriing the surgery so you have no idea why the cat is on abs- so please don't decide over the internet whther or not somebbody is treating the cat correctly or not

tw1nkley · 26/03/2009 00:11

My friend had a cat for years - she moved and shortly afterwards the cat would disapear for a night and come back with a diferent collar on, she would take it off and replace it ( complete with little id barrel) This happened lots, over several years -obviously whoever was taking the cats collar off knew where the cat lived because of the id barrel, but the new collars never had an address / telephone no. so she couldn't go round for a chat. After several years of this her cat vanished for 4 days - she was frantic on day 5 the cat came back looking terrible, (dirty / not quite right) she shut the cat indoors and booked an appointment at the vets for that pm. Her dp accidentally let the cat out when he came home for lunch. The next day The cats "other family"???? came round and informed her husband that they had had him put to sleep at their vets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And wanted to be payed!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just don't understand how people can do things like that - she was distraught.

The "other family" had him put to sleep because they couldn't afford the treatment! She could!

mind is boggling!

Don't pay bloody sue him!

salsmum · 26/03/2009 00:58

sorry if it's already been mentioned but was your cat microchipped? If the man told the vet your cat was a stray the vet would have checked him for a chip. I think you need to check with the vet the story that the neighbour told him.

solidgoldbrass · 26/03/2009 01:19

DOn't pay the officious fuckwit. Tell him to piss off. It was his choice to spend the money without bothering to find out who the cat actually belonged to.

OldLadyKnowsNothing · 26/03/2009 02:23

By oopsagain...."he is more likely to catch FIV (simailr to HIV)"

Sorry if I'm taking this off-topic, but in my day that which is now called "feline HIV" used to be known as "cat flu", and I can't help wondering if it was renamed because it sounds scarier and folk are more likely to pay up for an innoculation.

Is there actually any connection between human IV and feline?

Devendra · 26/03/2009 06:40

Your cat has no ID.

He had no idea whether the cat had a home or not.. uneutered males are real hobos.. in and out of peoples houses.. ans a pain squirting their smelly urine everywhere.

He was probably spending a lot of time at this mans house being fed etc.

He took him to the vet and had him neutered which he paid a lot of money for.

He has not asked you for any money.

You are being very unreasonable in my opinion.
Be grateful he cared enough to take him and get him done.

get your animals microchipped in future.

Nabster · 26/03/2009 08:08

Collars are not expensive and tbh if you can't afford to replce them, don't have a cat.