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AIBU?

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To think the slebs on most of comic relief are a bunch of self promoting arseholes?

160 replies

ssd · 13/03/2009 08:13

they are just doing it to get on the telly - AGAIN

that lot on the apprentice last night
Jonathon Ross
Carol Voderman etc etc

is there anything they wouldn't do?

bet most of them give hee haw to charity the rest of the year

wish there was another way to put forward this cause without making it an ego trip for all the eegits

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Wigglesworth · 13/03/2009 11:42

Gordon Brown really is a lame arse hole. He looks like someone drew a sad face on their scrotum. I can't think of a better person more capable of single handedly fucking up the country more than his bafoonish fop of a predocessor.

Villette · 13/03/2009 11:45

I think it is valid to bring up the issue of whether all this celebrity show biz promotion
is the appropriate way to raise funds for and awareness of poor counties.

I personally find the whole thing a big turn off. Before I am labelled callous and selfish, can I say that I worked for six months as a secretary for a third world charity, and I have hosted local fund raising events for small local charities I am personally involved with.

I can't stand the show biz ra-ra-ra. I loathe the pointless stunts to raise money. I feel the same way towards it as Scrooge felt towards Christmas. I am already planning what I shall do this evening to avoid watching any of it on television.

Red Nose organiser Richard Curtis is the partner of presenter Emma Freud. Emma's brother Matthew is married to Elizabeth Murdoch, daughter of Rupert.

I am tempted to feel that the whole thing is a Murdoch-inspired plot to fill the BBC with crap TV in order to undermine the case for license funding.

ronshar · 13/03/2009 11:49

Wigglesworth you have an amazingly eloquent turn of phase

TsarChasm · 13/03/2009 11:56

I agree. I just dont find all those 'funny' sketches that are eternally 'coming up later...later..later' (DO IT NOW THEN IF IT'S SO DAMN FUNNY!) are actually funny when they eventually show them 30 seconds before the end of an eternal evening of jollity.

I mean Billy Connolly running around starkers that time. Maybe if he dyed his pubes purple the way he used to dye his beard (oh my aching sides)- maybe that would have made me laugh. Actually no it wouldn't.

georgimama · 13/03/2009 11:58

Wigglesworth, I am chortling silently so as not to alert colleagues to covert MNing. Your description will give DH much joy.

Anniek · 13/03/2009 11:59

I think they did very well, and whether we agree or not, famous people bring attention to a subject, yes we know it is happening but dedicating a day to it and really focusing an entire country to fund raising is great

Nobody on this planet (now mother Teresa is dead) is so wonderful they would give up all their income to live on the poverty line, so they could feel really charitable.

So to say famous people should write checks and not do anything to promote the charity so others are focused and give as well is just about you being jealous not about them being vain.

Wigglesworth · 13/03/2009 12:02

There was a girl who I worked with who organised loads of events for children in need. She so only did it for the attention everyone gave her though. She was constantly banging on about it and made a big speech before a raffle she organised and basically got everyone to thank her for organising the whole thing and tell her how great she is, shed revelled in it like a pig in shite. She is the attention seeking type though.

Wigglesworth · 13/03/2009 12:03

*she

WinkyWinkola · 13/03/2009 12:12

Funny, I knew a girl who would throw this big events and parties to raise money for charity. She would be the centre of attention with everyone saying how wonderful she was etc. I guess there's nothing wrong with that. She was trying to do something which is better than sitting on your ass doing nothing. But it always had to be events that revolved around her, lapping up glory. I think the glory really belongs to those who work on the ground for the charities.

Last I heard the WWF was still chasing her for £1k she owed them.......

Yes, it's all about ego and attention.

But if it works and raises the much needed £, who cares?

ingles2 · 13/03/2009 12:19

YABsoU...What does it matter? They vast majority on that climb really didn't need to raise their profile...
Look at Chris Moyles... now he is a self serving git most of the time, but LBH does he strike you as a climbing MK will be easy kind of bloke? nope, he must have put loads of effort into doing that and his fans have raised a small fortune. How can you begrudge that?
My 7yr old son watched the climb programme, he was horrified by the pics of dying babies and for the first time understood why he's getting dressed up today, and having fun. He went into school telling his teacher, how awful it was and how unfair that they couldn't have nets and that his £5 would buy loads of nets. Surely that's what it's all about?

SoupDragon · 13/03/2009 12:24

There is another way

It doesn't matter how the money is raised, it still does the job of saving lives.

georgimama · 13/03/2009 12:24

"So to say famous people should write checks and not do anything to promote the charity so others are focused and give as well is just about you being jealous not about them being vain."

FFS can we clear this issue up once and for all.

The word you want is "envious" not "jealous". Look them up. They have quite distinct meanings. Before anyone tells me haughtily that it is progression of the language, it is not progress to take two perfectly useful words that mean two different things, stop using one of them, and make the other mean both things. That is a contraction of the language, it is not a good thing.

And I am not envious. I don't want to be Fearne Cotton and I don't want to climb Mount Kilaman-sodding-jaro.

BigTeuchLittleTeuch · 13/03/2009 12:27

I never really get the argument about slebs 'just writing a cheque'...

Charity isn't about being able to afford it. Many, many people support charities at all levels and would, in some people's eyes, be considered 'deprived' themselves.

Supporting charity is about motivation. Having worked in fundraising for years, it is just as easy for your ordinary 'man in the street' to want to jump off a building in the name of charity and to be motivated by the attention, as slebs.

There are lots of reasons why people support charities...all of them are valid!

VinegarTitsCoveredinChocolate · 13/03/2009 12:30

georgimama why are you getting so angry about it, nobody is personally calling you jealous or envious, people are just puttung forward their opinions, like you have done

gagamama · 13/03/2009 12:33

I didn't watch the mountain one, but I do have to sort of agree with this in the case of Patsy Kensit on the Apprentice. After her little diva strop when she walked out because she clearly couldn't cope with not being the star of the show, she then said something to camera along the lines of (to paraphrase, but you get the idea) 'Yeah, I was ready to walk out but I stayed because I called my husband and he really understands me and understands why I want to do this and how important it is for me to win'. Er, so not because it's a light-hearted spoof for CHARITY, then?

But generally I would say YABU. Why would a sleb turn it down? Because they don't want to raise their profile and don't want to raise money for charity?! That would be odd.

TheBFG · 13/03/2009 12:37

I know someone who is doing the race for life. Except she's not going to get any sponsorship for doing it because she says that it's not worth doing because everyone asks for money so she's doing it for her own personal reasons, but is making it very clear to everyone that she will be running the race for life. it's all about people saying to her "oh how wonderful that you are running for this fabulous cause," when actually she's doing it for herself. Why doesn't she just run around the block instead of using the name of a good cause to make people think she's fabulous.

Anniek · 13/03/2009 12:39

OK I stand corrected you are envious.

And I think no matter what either of us say we are not going to agree on this subject, fair enough, but I feel what these famous people have done is good.

georgimama · 13/03/2009 12:39

The English Language being mangled does make me angry. I think that is worth being angry about.

The poster I responded to said "you" about posters who question celebrities' motives. I am one such poster, so not unreasonably I reached the conclusion that she was addressing me (amongst others).

georgimama · 13/03/2009 12:42

See, she was talking to me.

No, I am not envious. Honestly, I'm not. Why would I be? What is that you can detect in my posts that I don't know about myself that leads you to this conclusion, despite me saying I am not?

Very odd.

choochoochaboogie · 13/03/2009 12:43

I agree with saltire (ages ago!) some slebs been in it for ages and done lot of good. After all a yup of money is raised for good causes in this country and 3rd world countries which might not be done otherwise, so good on them for doing that, and why not have a laugh - for them and us - whilst doing it. However I do think some of the slebs are taking a ride for their own self-gratification, but then I can't stand "wossy" anyway - if anyone didn't deserve their salary it's him..rant rant...

Enjoy the fun though and dwell on the good side

noonki · 13/03/2009 12:44

I would prefer they did nothing. I mean theb money just flows in anyway .

Have a go at celebs for a multitude of other sins but not for raising money that saves lives ffs.

VinegarTitsCoveredinChocolate · 13/03/2009 12:44

I too stand corrected as it seems she was saying it to you, but you probably are jealous, with a bit of envy mixed in

Anniek · 13/03/2009 12:47

OK, I know I should just let this go but...

jeal·ous (jls)
adj.

  1. Fearful or wary of being supplanted; apprehensive of losing affection or position.
a. Resentful or bitter in rivalry; envious: jealous of the success of others. b. Inclined to suspect rivalry.
  1. Having to do with or arising from feelings of envy, apprehension, or bitterness: jealous thoughts.
  2. Vigilant in guarding something: We are jealous of our good name.
  3. Intolerant of disloyalty or infidelity; autocratic: a jealous God.

from thefreedictionary.com

So how is this not what I said

georgimama · 13/03/2009 12:51

Yes, the dictionary definition has changed because of constant misuse by people. Dictionaries add, remove and change definitions according to use.

Whatever. I am neither jealous - I don't resent Cheryl and Fearne for leaving me to trudge up a mountain - nor envious - I didn't want to do it myself. Honestly.

I'm going to check out the thread about shagging gnomes, looks much more fun.

Lizzylou · 13/03/2009 12:54

YABU, It has be a good thing, raising money and awareness. It also just might let us look outside of our own lives and see we haven't exactly got it bad!
The Mountain climb looked awful and I cried lots watching the footage of children and babies dying/ill.

I'm doing the Swimathon in April and can barely get any bugger to sponsor me, so people raising £1.5million having trekked up Mount Kilimanjaro sounds pretty fab tbh.
Makes my 2.5km swim look a very paltry effort.

That said, didn't Fearne look awful with no make up on? (Cackle cackle cackle) I know she was suffering from altitude sickness and had camped out for ages, but still, she looked rough