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Not to want to be yelled at by ignorant pig when i am out with my DD and DP and Ddog!

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LucyEllensmummy · 08/03/2009 13:51

We have just had a lovely walk along our beach - just the right weather, DD and DP on scooter and me there behind them (quite a long way).

Dog off the lead (small jr type) not bothering anyone with children (he used to do this and was kept on lead but doesn't bother now). Lots of other dogs off lead - loads, hundreds possibly, all happily meeting greeting and generally having fun. Its lovely to watch - my dog is a friendly little character.

So, my dog approaches some dogs on the lead - one of the dogs starts snarling (NOT mine!!) as is quite common with dogs on leads - my dog is a bit dim and thinks it a game so is bouncing around. The owner then starts bellowing at me to put my dog on the lead (by this time my dog had walked off anyway) that i was breaking the law by having him off lead on the beach. Which i know is not true as dogs are banned from that beach between may and september only. Its perfectly legal any other time. My dog wasn't bothering anyone else. Comes when called etc. So the guy gives it all "well we'll see about that" Gets his phone and calls who? The council, the police??? I just go and sit on the wall and say, call who you want, we'll wait!! WANKER!!!!!!! Its not my fault his dog is aggresive to other dogs and his wife goes into a panic. I think he might have an interesting walk today - thousands of dogs on the beach off the lead, with people with and without dogs/children enjoying watching them play.

I would have had my dog on the lead if he were a)bigger (i used to have rotties and only ever walked them off lead in the depths of winter as they are a bit intimidating. b) aggresive c)likely to approach children (i don't like this myself) or liable to be a pain and not come away from other dogs - he is none of these.

What a thoroughly unpleasant man!

Waits to be flammed, just ranting really - i know I ANBU

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LucyEllensmummy · 08/03/2009 14:19

Don't worry kerry, tis no-where near you . During the summer months dogs are banned from that particular beach and have to be walked on the lead along the promenade only - other dog owners moan about this, but as a mum i agree with it and think its absolutely fair. Other times, im afraid the beach belongs to the dogs and people should just keep away!!! lol

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StripeyKnickersSpottySocks · 08/03/2009 14:29

I think you should have called him back before he got so close to the other dog. Sorry.

My dog (always on a lead) is terrified of other dogs. I can't emphasise how much it spoils my walks when we have to try and cope with other dogs (even being friendly) coming bouncing over.

paisleyleaf · 08/03/2009 14:31

You are sounding like you haven't got control over your dog though.
How does he come when he's called yet run run run and come back eventually?
He may well come across dogs on leads when he does that.

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LucyEllensmummy · 08/03/2009 14:38

used to!!! now he runs runs runs and comes back when he's called! It used to be a bit of a "shit, wheres he gone"

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LucyEllensmummy · 08/03/2009 14:39

Why is he scared stripey? Is she a rescue dog?

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paisleyleaf · 08/03/2009 14:45

used to!!! now he runs runs runs and comes back when he's called! It used to be a bit of a "shit, wheres he gone"

oh, I only said that as you said "still does" and "eventually"

My mum has a nervous dog like stripey's (yep, rescue)
and it's a juggle with a LO holding one hand, dog on lead on the other and an over-enthusiastic strange dog that wants to make friends. Most owners see the dog is on a lead and sensibly keep their dog away.

StripeyKnickersSpottySocks · 08/03/2009 14:49

She is a rescue dog yes. I understand its her problem, but am sure she can't be the only dog like this.

Last week we were walking and a lab came bounding up and actually jumped on her back - she started yelping like she was in terrible pain. She wasn't, just scared. I was so mad with the lab's owner though. Even if another dog just comes up to her she tries and hides behind me and when they follow she starts with this yelping/shrieking. We are taking her to socialisation classes.

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LucyEllensmummy · 08/03/2009 14:52

but stripey, if your dog is that nervous, would you honestly walk her where there are bound to be loads of dogs off lead? Because rightly or wrongly there were loads (ok not thousands) of dogs on the beach today and most of them off lead. Most dogs, mine included do get the message though - if a dog isn't interested he just moves on.

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welshdeb · 08/03/2009 14:53

Your dog was off his lead and therefore not under your control. If he had bitten the other dog or his owner, even if in retaliation it would have been your fault.
YABU sorry.

hercules1 · 08/03/2009 14:58

Having a dog under control is not the same as just putting on a lead. Dogs will naturally greet each other, they are dogs, not people. If one of my dogs were likely to be vicious I wouldnt walk it in an area where it was likely to be approached by other dogs e.g. a beach. If I did I would put a muzzle on it.
I am as sure as I can be that if my dogs approach an aggressive dog they will walk away especially as they are not on teh lead themselves. It is very unlikely an unaggressive dog not on the lead will attack a dog on the lead. DOgs have 2 choices - fight or flee and if they cant flee ie on the lead they have to fight. My dogs could and would just walk away.

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LucyEllensmummy · 08/03/2009 15:05

that is exactly right herc - my dog was under control as would have come away if i called him. As it was, he just walked off leaving his overbred powderpuff contorting itself on the lead to try and get after my dog - i think it was their dog not under control!

I used to have rotties who i walked off lead (but not this time of year when lots of children on the beach as people are wary) They were under control as i could make them sit and wait for me whenever i told them too.

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paisleyleaf · 08/03/2009 15:19

I still don't understand why you just didn't call him away then
before he reached the other dog

KerryMumbles · 08/03/2009 15:21

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mistlethrush · 08/03/2009 15:21

Welshdeb - that's not necessarily true. I mean, would you say that sheep dogs are not under the farmer's control when they are rounding up sheep? A dog doesn't have to be on the lead to be under control.

Bronze - does she bolt becuase she is frightened of things? We had a rescue dog that had this problem - she was on a flexi lead all the time for a long time - she was frightened of men, people with hats on, teenagers, other dogs and particularly children (We think she had been really badly treated). We then got a rescue puppy (we were her 3rd home at 4 months - we found out why!). It was 3 days of hell - older dog didn't want to be in the same room, despite puppy being friendly. On day 3 though, I was out playing with the puppy, playing chase in the garden - and the older dog thought she might join in. This went from occasional games, to grudging tolleration, to best friends over the next few years. The benefits were that the puppy had lots of socialisation so was always out front meeting other dogs and this took the heat off the older one.

StripeyKnickersSpottySocks · 08/03/2009 15:21

Where I live if I want to walk her in the village then I know we will meet one or two dogs that are off the lead. So don't really have a choice. But at weekends I go to a park wehre dogs have to be on leads, but its a shame I have to drive 5 miles to walk her because other people let their dogs come up. I don't see why I shouldn't be able to walk my dog where I want because of other peoples' dogs. Just my perspective.

KerryMumbles · 08/03/2009 15:22

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StripeyKnickersSpottySocks · 08/03/2009 15:22

By the way, my mum takes a wooden walking stick when she walks her dog and any dog that comes up to hers gets a clout with the stick!

KerryMumbles · 08/03/2009 15:23

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2shoes · 08/03/2009 15:23

yabu
your dog was not uder controll......it wasn't on a lead.

StripeyKnickersSpottySocks · 08/03/2009 15:24

I had a friend who had a rottie that se thought was perfectly traiend as well. She en=ven used to leave it in the front room by itself with her newborn baby on te floor.

Then one day it got out the gate and went for the postman, toally ignored her when she tried to call it off. Was horrific.

hercules1 · 08/03/2009 15:27

kerry - would you really thump someone whose dog was not on the lead but perfectly well behaved?? I see lots of rotties off lead when I walk my dogs. Never occured to me I should thump their owners whilst our dogs are sniffing each others arses.

herbietea · 08/03/2009 15:32

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StripeyKnickersSpottySocks · 08/03/2009 15:37

Its the dog my mum hits, not the owners. Maybe she should hit the owners instead though!

I shout if a dog comes up in a bouncy way, its intimidating and I have no idea if the dog is friendly or not. I shout at the dog to back off, then if the dog ignores me I will shout at teh owner. Not every time, it kind of depends on how the dog is approaching if you see what I mean but if I'm scared I will shout and I'm not scared of dogs for myself if you see what I mean, but that one might bite/attack my dog.

bronze · 08/03/2009 16:16

mistle- I don't think so. I think she thinks its a game but she carries it on far too long and we would have to live in Nevada to have enough safe space for her to wear the game out and come back.
She's as soft as anything and not scared of the children. Our last dog, also a rescue pput up with them but would move on when fed up, this one is best friends with dd and they walk round the house together and sit curled up. (see pic in profile)

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