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Not to want to be yelled at by ignorant pig when i am out with my DD and DP and Ddog!

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LucyEllensmummy · 08/03/2009 13:51

We have just had a lovely walk along our beach - just the right weather, DD and DP on scooter and me there behind them (quite a long way).

Dog off the lead (small jr type) not bothering anyone with children (he used to do this and was kept on lead but doesn't bother now). Lots of other dogs off lead - loads, hundreds possibly, all happily meeting greeting and generally having fun. Its lovely to watch - my dog is a friendly little character.

So, my dog approaches some dogs on the lead - one of the dogs starts snarling (NOT mine!!) as is quite common with dogs on leads - my dog is a bit dim and thinks it a game so is bouncing around. The owner then starts bellowing at me to put my dog on the lead (by this time my dog had walked off anyway) that i was breaking the law by having him off lead on the beach. Which i know is not true as dogs are banned from that beach between may and september only. Its perfectly legal any other time. My dog wasn't bothering anyone else. Comes when called etc. So the guy gives it all "well we'll see about that" Gets his phone and calls who? The council, the police??? I just go and sit on the wall and say, call who you want, we'll wait!! WANKER!!!!!!! Its not my fault his dog is aggresive to other dogs and his wife goes into a panic. I think he might have an interesting walk today - thousands of dogs on the beach off the lead, with people with and without dogs/children enjoying watching them play.

I would have had my dog on the lead if he were a)bigger (i used to have rotties and only ever walked them off lead in the depths of winter as they are a bit intimidating. b) aggresive c)likely to approach children (i don't like this myself) or liable to be a pain and not come away from other dogs - he is none of these.

What a thoroughly unpleasant man!

Waits to be flammed, just ranting really - i know I ANBU

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LucyEllensmummy · 09/03/2009 18:01

Is that a spinone threadworm???

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LucyEllensmummy · 09/03/2009 18:02

The pub on the beach where i live (im going to give myself away now!) has a huge dog - very slobbery - he is running around outside all the time, local celeb so he is - shook his drool into my pint!! fortunately he did so in front of the landlord who promptly replaced it - yuckity yuck!

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dollius · 09/03/2009 18:03

Why not other dogs?

What is so wrong with dogs socialising with each other? They are meant to do that, it's natural.

I agree, dogs on leads in places such as high street/village green etc where there are small children/frail elderly people. But in the woods/on the beach in midwinter where there are lots of other dogs running around??? I don't get it.

I have been really surprised at how many people are hysterical about dogs since I became a dog owner.

And I don't think my dog is an exception to the rule and I have trained him to come back to me when I call him because I know not everyone likes dogs, but I do think it is unreasonable to expect him to be chained up all the time. Dogs need to run around.

MumOfBaby · 09/03/2009 18:07

dollius- that's fine if there arn't other people around.

When dogs meet other dogs they start fightening and the owners panic and try to get them apart and people get hurt, it's just horrible. But then this is from someone who really, really dislikes dogs.

ingles2 · 09/03/2009 18:08

complete sense dollius...
I appreciate you are terrified of dogs MOB hence your hysterical response, but not all dogs are the same.
I think you'll find the vast majority are well trained with considerate owners.
However if you choose to frequent a busy open public space you should anticipate dogs exercising there!!

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LucyEllensmummy · 09/03/2009 18:08

most dog fights are all teeth and snarling and you are right people panic intervene and get hurt - this is why i always maintain that dogs should not have docked tails, that way you can pull them out when you think its time to stop the fight!

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ingles2 · 09/03/2009 18:09

That's codswallop MOB!

MumOfBaby · 09/03/2009 18:10

Oh is it really.lol.

ingles2 · 09/03/2009 18:12

yep, In all my years of owning dogs (about 30), I've never had a dog involved in a fight and I've never seen a dog in a fight!

MumOfBaby · 09/03/2009 18:14

I've been chased by an alsation, a huge white german shepherd and a whopping black labrador. And I've seen LOADS of dogs fight on my beach. The one dog I actually like (my friend's dog) had it's throat ripped out by a bigger dog, it was awful.

But I am biased- partly due to these negative experiences, and partly because dog gross me out.

MumOfBaby · 09/03/2009 18:15

Oh and I don't frequent places with dogs off leads by the way, before I get told to stay away.

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LucyEllensmummy · 09/03/2009 18:15

I feel really sad for you mumofbaby - you are welcome to meet my dog anytime, he's bound to change your mind.

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MumOfBaby · 09/03/2009 18:16

Aww, I'm sure he would my lovely

BitOfFun · 09/03/2009 18:16

LEM, we've got a border/paterdale cross too- she's on my profile...not relevant at all to anyone, but reading that yours is similar just made me want to !

She's a perky friendly little thing, and loves a good run off the lead. I could never run fast enough to keep her on a lead and feel like she'd worked any energy off. I have varying levels of success getting her to take any notice of me when it's time to go home

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LucyEllensmummy · 09/03/2009 18:19

awwwwwww he's gorgeous, he looks just like mine in negative, mine is brown and white (think the mother who was supposed to be the border terrier had jack russel in). But hey, i luuuurve him.

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LucyEllensmummy · 09/03/2009 18:19

ooops, she!! hmmmm, they could make beautiful babies together

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BitOfFun · 09/03/2009 18:21

He'd have to catch her first

sarah293 · 09/03/2009 18:22

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BitOfFun · 09/03/2009 18:29

It is great, Riven, but the dog gets so messy and wet it can be a pita!

lucykate · 09/03/2009 18:32

one of our old neighbours claimed her dog was really friendly and wouldn't hurt a fly. she was still saying this after it had shot into our front garden, ripped apart and killed our cat right in front of us, biting both myself and dh when we tried to get her out of its jaws.

WhereTheWildThingsWere · 09/03/2009 18:50

Yanbu imo man hugely over-reacted and was a bit of a twat.

However, I have a stafford who is not dog aggressive, and will not approach or attempt to socialize with other dogs ever, but if other dogs come and bounce round him endlessly he will eventually lose patience, then growl/snap/lunge.

For this reason he is always on a (long to give hime some freedom) lead, I do find it hard if he snaps at another dog, as I feel bad, though tbh most owners are usually very apologetic, and we just laugh if off.

TiggyR · 09/03/2009 20:50

MumofBaby - that's so untrue! All I can say is that if you live somewhere where loads and loads of dogs are ripping one another to bits on a regular basis and injuring their owners in the process then you should move to a neighbourhood with more intelligent people!

Occasionally some dogs fight, like occasionally some people fight. Actually it's usually more of a verbal row/minor scuffle - all mouth and trousers. But it's pretty rare. By and large they say hello, sniff, maybe chase one another a bit for fun, and move along without any bother! You are imagining what you think happens to most dogs because it is your worst fear, and I understand that, but the reality is very different! It's a bit like me having a nervous breakdown every time one of my teenagers wants to go near the town centre after dark, and I say 'I'll drop you off and pick you up right at the door so you don't get stabbed.' and they roll their eyes and think I'm some crazy woman.

Having a lovely sociable active dog is a joy - and you get to chat to some really great people while you walk. It's such a shame that some owners are so ill at ease (for whatever reason) with their dogs socialising, because the dog will feed off their owner's nerves and become even more stressed - it's a self fulfilling prophecy. In my experience there are certain dogs that can always be relied upon to be miserable and unapproachable with a sense of humour failure and frankly their owners are usually similar. They both just take themselves far too seriously! (won't mention the breed, but I do have a very specific one in mind)

MumOfBaby · 09/03/2009 21:02

I do understand that I have a very biased view, and it's unlucky that I happen to have seen these incidents. i always ran from dogs when I was little which is why I was chased. I've only ever seen one dog get it's throat ripped out and there was where I used to work.

I'm not saying it happens everyday, I'm just saying I've been unlucky enough to see it and I'm terrified anyway so obviously I'm just putting the two together.

I know some dogs are lovely.

However, I'm also allergic and hate the smell of dogs and the fact that they slobber and poo around and about. And yet I love babies.

dexter73 · 09/03/2009 21:48

TiggyR - Is this the kind of dog you mean which takes itself too seriously?!!

dollius · 10/03/2009 09:26

Ooh Tiggy, please do mention the breed. I find it so confusing knowing when it is and isn't ok to let your dog socialise with other dogs.

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