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needmorecoffee · 24/11/2008 18:03

my eldest lives with the wealthy in-laws. She's 16. They want us to claim EMA for her based on our income cos our income is under 20K so we qualify but there's is way over 30K so they don't.
Surely that money is for poor families?
And they are demanding various P60's that we have lost to fill in the damn forms.
We already give them the Child benefit.

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catweazle · 24/11/2008 18:08

But aren't you (and she) a poor family?

needmorecoffee · 24/11/2008 18:09

yes but she lives with in-laws and they are rich and don't need that 30 quid a week. it goes to them, not us.

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Englebert · 24/11/2008 18:13

Wouldn't they need to prove that she lives with you? Or is the CB still in your name?

YANBU. The EMA should be based on the income of the householdyou live in, not one that's more convenient.

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needmorecoffee · 24/11/2008 18:14

its not like we get any money for her and we're on benefits. Everything stopped when she left.
I think 35K with no mortgage is a huge sum of money given me and the other 5 live on less than 15

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smugmarried · 24/11/2008 18:16

I don't see what the problem is honestly, she will be the one to get the money, not your in-laws. It will be paid into a bank account in her name.

Libra1975 · 24/11/2008 18:17

Actually it doesn't go to them, it goes to her.

Libra1975 · 24/11/2008 18:17

x-post with smugmarried.

scaredoflove · 24/11/2008 18:17

EMA is based on the homes income, where the child lives, I think

It also goes straight to the child, not the caregivers

So, your dd wouldn't be eligible anyway, though if she was, you wouldn't be lining the pockets of the in-laws

Lockets · 24/11/2008 18:19

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Englebert · 24/11/2008 18:20

I didn't realise it would go straight to your dd. In that case I would let them get on with it.

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needmorecoffee · 24/11/2008 18:25

I worry that its fraud.
Actually, CB is enough to keep her in food. Its enough for my others.

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AuntieMaggie · 24/11/2008 18:25

Being someone who had this when I was in school I doubt that she would get it anyway based on where she lives.

Unlike the previous posters I'm not interested in why your parents are supporting her.

She applies for it not you (or at least that was the way when I had it).

And no YANBU in my opinion. It's to help people who really need it.

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AuntieMaggie · 24/11/2008 18:26

It is fraud if you say she is living with you - the same if you say she is living with you to claim the child benefit

smugmarried · 24/11/2008 18:28

Oh, if they are asking you to commit fraud and say that she is living with you when she's not then YANBU.

Why don't you agree to apply, but only providing you tell the absolute truth, and she'll either be eligible for it or not.

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needmorecoffee · 24/11/2008 18:30

no it wont cost us anything but we will be claiming she is living here. Thats what the in-laws want. that to me is fraud.
So should I put down thir address and income?

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AuntieMaggie · 24/11/2008 18:31

Comments were made about the OP supporting her DD even though she lives with her in-laws

smugmarried · 24/11/2008 18:31

Have you seen this, it might help to clarify things for you

EMA

AuntieMaggie · 24/11/2008 18:33

Nope - if you get found out it's not worth it. Doesn't sound like you could afford it if they found out.

And yes I think it is unreasonable of your wealthy in laws to expect you to claim she is living with you when she isn't.

noonki · 24/11/2008 18:33

YANBU - beacuse they will be commiting fraud, and as it is your daughter who will be getting the money she will be compliciate in that fraud.

Which is a pretty rubbish lesson to give her.

theSuburbanDryad · 24/11/2008 18:33

I thought your dd applied for it, not anyone else.

It will go to her, not to your IL's. I do think YANBU for not wanting to tell - well, whoever it is that you apply to this for - that dd lives with you just so she gets a higher rate or whatever.