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To be sick of little girls being portrayed as angels and little boys as devils-in-disguise?

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mm22bys · 13/11/2008 09:42

I got a brochure today about a company that sells toiletries for children.

The name of said-company?

HalosnHorns

(Halos in pink, and horns in blue).

Why are little boys always portrayed as imps, devils, trouble-makers, etc, etc, etc?

It's no wonder so many grow up with low self-esteem, alot of their behaviour must just be like a self-fulfilling prophecy!

Rant over.

OP posts:
DaDaDa · 13/11/2008 17:05

"Male behaviours: 'aggression and target attainment'"

Grrrrrrrrrrr, I'm a tiger.

DaDaDa's behaviours: 'prevarication and indolence'.

MadamePlatypus · 13/11/2008 17:05

I think it can almost be more harmful to girls. Sitting still and quietly getting on with it helps when you are trying to perfect your handwriting, but not when you want a pay rise.

DaDaDa · 13/11/2008 17:06

YANBU btw.

MorrisZapp · 13/11/2008 17:08

Am I missing something or are almost all adult jobs based upon sitting still and being quiet, ie, desk jobs?

I don't know any men who don't have to sit either at a desk all day like everybody else, or in a car etc.

PeachyAndTheSucklingBas · 13/11/2008 17:09

I would agree with that madame

But I dont think girls are worse off or boys either perhaps; I think there are positives to being each- girls do tend to have better education which should theoretically give them better access to opportunitie- with them its the access take up and use that needs to be addresseed

With the boys its the education in the first place

it's about enabling everyone to achieve despite gender- or indeed whilst making gender irrelevant i think. Knowing how to value male traits whilst assisting with those they struggle with, and exactly the same for the girls- creating a balance.

Ony then will there be any equality.

wasabipeanut · 13/11/2008 17:10

I worry that the EYFS will turn my ds off reading and writing if he is being forced to try and "perform" certain tasks when he is 3.

At the moment he seems to love books - just turning the pages and looking at the pictures and me doing silly voices. I don't want that stamped out of him by this idea that he has to have reached certain "targets" by a certain age. Boys tend to lag a bit behind girls at this age and the consequences of trying to make evry child fit a mould concern me.

Also totally see the point however that despite the trend towards education being "feminised" boys do eventually end up as men earning more money usually.

What anyone can do about it I have absolutely no idea.

MadamePlatypus · 13/11/2008 17:10

"But on average, it's still the men, far more than would be expected considering that for decades girls have been improving their performance at school and university."

I think you also have to look at the way jobs are structured - it you want to have children and reach the top of your chosen career, its generally still easier if you have a wife rather than a husband.

PeachyAndTheSucklingBas · 13/11/2008 17:12

Most adult jobs dont involve desks all day

Most visible ones do

nurses, carers in homes, cleaners, etc etc etc dont require the same things

manual labourers dont require the same skills

skilled work such as the 'trades' (cant tink of a abtter term) dont require it

Out of many. many jobs dh and I have held only 2 have actually been desk based- receptionist for me and data inputter for dh.

His maanger job ow invovls runninga round helping drivers etc all night; i've worked for charities, nursing, he has a small electronics company.......

mou · 13/11/2008 17:30

I've got both. I hate the stereo- typing. Funnily they do pretty well fall into the stereo-types despite my best intentions.
I do think society has a way of squashing the boys who are naturally more 'exhuberant' though. They are not necessarily naughty but inquisitive and adventurous. My son is into free-running and I just leave it, if someone objects to his choice of venue I would deal with it. But I have had some raised eyebrows. Lets face it kids used to get into scrapes that were all part of the learning curve but now we are condemned if they spend time on the computer but some 'git' would sue them for trespass if they were caught scrumping these days.
My DD is mostly a girly girl, doesn't get it from me!

PeachyAndTheSucklingBas · 13/11/2008 17:33

In the 'old days' (when I was a kid) we used to be able to roam for miles and go off on ur bikes- enough exercise for anyone regardless of gender to burn off a little energy

But now even if the kids were let out (and from what I can see its more worry about what ohter poeple will think than actual danger) the spaces are mostly built over anyway (the nes I used to play on are all housing estates now)

WowOoo · 13/11/2008 17:45

The bluebell fields are all houses.
The best adventure I could ever have went a long time ago.

I wish there were more male Primary school yeachers. I had 2 female, 2 male.

Kevlarhead · 13/11/2008 23:37

We buy the Halos'n'Horns shampoo for DS.

I'd always thought of the wee faces as different aspects of the same child...

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