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AIBU regarding PILs, cos everyone else seems to think so - long

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kirsty1980 · 12/11/2008 13:58

name changer here.

DH and I have separated, a large reason for this is due to his parents (mainly his mother?s) behaviour. We say we love each other but I cannot stand his mother?s behaviour and he says he is fed up with MY behaviour towards his parents. He is a mummy?s boy. This is going to be long, but please tell me if I am unreasonable because everyone including my own parents seem to think I am 

I have been with DH for 11 years, married for 3 and we have an 8 month old baby. PILs never showed much of an interest in me. They would look at me as if I had 3 heads if I chatted away to them, I would get one word replies and I?d think they were really weird but that was really all. I would stay over at their?s no problems, go up for tea etc.

When I fell pregnant with dd, that?s when it began to change. She nagged me to go into hospital when I wanted a home birth (I did go into hospital but only due to complications during pregnancy), she criticised my decision to BF, turning to other DIL and saying ?good for you? when other DIL mentioned she hadn?t, making me feel like less of a mum or something and when I was in hospital due to placenta prevaria and lots of bleeding plus SPD, she visited only to spend the entire time talking about how tired and stressed my DH was!

Once dd was born, she was never away from here. She turned up at 10pm unnannounced, dd was in the mist of a colic episode, I was stressed and she proceeded to follow me around the house giving instructions when I just wanted her to FO. She would ask us to come up to hers all day Sunday and sulk if I did not want to, or if I wanted to leave after an hour or so. If dd was getting cranky and I wanted to go, she would ignore me and so would DH, because he wanted to keep his mum happy. DH works 6 days a week and sometimes Sunday overtime, so any spare time we have, I want it to be us three. So I stopped Sunday visits all together.

Now that has led to her moaning she never sees dd. When she does, it?s as if I don?t exist. She completely takes over and if I try to take dd, she turns away from me, or walks away, even if dd is crying for me. She says everything I do with dd is ?nonsense?, she says its my fault dd doesn?t sleep well because her boys were in their own room from birth plus if they woke, she would just leave them, which I don?t want to do with dd.

I tried to be nice though, at DH?s pleading, and invited her to visit us and to help bathe dd etc. She moaned to DH afterwards that she felt she was being supervised. She started turning up unannounced again 3 times that same week. Finally I told her to FO the third time and things have been strained since. Apparently, I am unsociable and queer.

She keeps asking for dd to stay overnight. I refuse, I don?t want dd to be away from me, especially if MIL won?t do things the way dd is used to. Plus MIL works full time, so it?s not realistic.

She encourages DH to leave me, hence the current separation, and apply for full custody of dd as that will allow them to see dd more, plus I apparently can?t cope with her! I?m very upset and scared I will lose dd. She encourages DH to have lads nights out, lads weekends away and never mind me left alone with the baby. She also keeps talking about a girl DH was ?close? to before we met (we were 16 when we met ffs!)

Anyway, my parents have been told the full story but they seem to think I?m exaggerating  They say they are the grandparents, I am being unreasonable and I need to let PILs see dd. Its not the ?seeing? her that matters, its their behaviour when they DO see her, plus the amount of time they want to see her. I don?t think MIL will be happy unless dd was living with her or something!

I?m sick of feeling like the bad guy, and feeling guilty. I?m sick of DH promising to take my side but it only lasting a few weeks before he returns to being a mummy?s boy.

Please be honest, AIBU?

OP posts:
katiek123 · 14/11/2008 20:11

nightmare - i cannot believe that you for even a second thought you MIGHT be being unreasonable - are you kidding???!!YIKES. your MIL sounds toxic. i agree with upwind - why not concentrate on the salvageable here - ie your relationship with DH? i think relate would be great. it really helped me and DH through a rough patch a couple of years ago. would he go, do you think?

Gracie123 · 15/11/2008 21:35

Sounds terrible. I'm really sorry about that.
In my experience if you married a mummy's boy there is not a whole lot you can do about it except a) grin and bear it or b) move away.
We did the latter. I now live 5 1/2 hours drive away from my parents and sisters, just because I couldn't stand living so close to MiL. I miss them terribly, but I think for the sake of our marriage it was worth it.
Hopefully you are a more gracious woman than I and you can stick it out.
I also find it helpful never to talk about MiL with DH. I let her bitch about me all the time and say nothing. This forces DH to defend me, something he feels very uncomfortable doing, but will do, so long as I make no effort to do it myself. That way she comes out looking bad and I get to go home with DH smugly.

kirsty1980 · 24/11/2008 15:23

My wee update: I am back living at home, without DH. I have said he and his parents are not welcome although he has turned up. Fortunately, my parents are with me most of the time and have told him to FO. I am also going to get the locks changed, can I do this? DH is asking me to get back with him but I have told him honestly that I am not sure. I have asked him to attend counselling with me and to also give me full details of his debts, only afterwards will I consider getting back with him. He is saying he doesn?t want to discuss ?our? problems (HIS problems!) with a stranger but I am being insistent. I also met with my lawyer and found out where I stand regarding everything such as access of dd (basically things look better for me than for him) and also our home (he can?t make me leave and I am not going to, I can afford to live there better than he can plus my parents are willing to help buy his share). As for his parents, they are still saying they want a meeting with me. I have refused so far, but my parents say they will come with me (with a tape recorder ? thanks for that suggestion!) and help me give them what for. I?m a bit nervous though, they will say some horrible things. I dread them turning up at the house with DH when I?m unprepared (and he still has a key).

OP posts:
edam · 24/11/2008 15:30

Wow. Haven't seen this thread before but your ILs are barking! And your h sounds like a spineless user.

Well done you on getting rid of all three of them. Don't feel obliged to meet your ex-ILs if you don't want to - tell them to put it in writing. That way, you don't have to put up with any verbal abuse or hijacking AND you have cold, hard evidence if they do go OTT.

more · 24/11/2008 15:34

Well done Kirsty1980 for going to the lawyer. I am glad that your parents are on your side now.
Have you made an appointment for getting the locks changed?
He does not sound as if he is the "changing" type, and I doubt that counselling would help him.

WinkyWinkola · 24/11/2008 16:30

I don't really see why you need to meet your ILs.

The issue is your marriage. That should have nothing to do with your ILs. You don't really owe them anything.

If they want to see their granddaughter, then they'll simply have to toe the line. Children and their parents come as a package, particularly as this young age. It's not like you're asking anything unreasonable of her really.

There is no way in hell anyone else can come into your home, disrespect your parenting choices regardless of the blood link.

You are the mother. Your DH is the father. These are decisions to be made between the pair of you, not his mother. He's trying to please his mother and that is generating a lot of conflict.

I think you should take your time about whether you want to be with your DH. My DH had the same Mummy's Boy Syndrome and it took three years for him to relearn that he doesn't need to consult his parents about every decision we make as a couple. And lots of rows and misery.

Set your boundaries now and stick to them. You'll be a lot happier. I really don't understand why anyone would seek to undermine a mother and her choices in the way she brings up her child. It's very odd.

I hope all works out well for you.

everyoneslackey · 24/11/2008 17:32

I think you are not allowed to change the locks by law but you can add another lock . which of course he hasnt got a key for .

thenewme · 24/11/2008 17:34

Only read the OP.

You are better off without a man who will leave his wife on his mother's say so.

MorrisZapp · 24/11/2008 17:36

Totally agree with WW above, but can I add that the in laws seem like a side issue here anyway, if your DH has attempted to push you downstairs whilst pregnant and whilst holding LO.

I hope you have the strength and support to do whatever is necessary to get this sorted out.

MadMarg · 24/11/2008 17:48

You DH moved out, and has been verbally abusive, you certainly can change the locks!

From a lawyer's website:

Can I change the locks?
Both you and your partner have the right to live in the house.
If your personal safety or privacy are compromised, or if your partner has moved themselves and their personal possessions out then you can change the locks.

From
www.normans.com.au/familyfacts/separation.html

Ineedmorechocolatenow · 24/11/2008 18:06

Get the locks changed. Absolutely.

You don't owe your in-laws ANYTHING. Please don't meet them, they are DH's problem.

Good for you so far, you've done all the right things. The hardest thing will be to stay strong. Your parents really sound as if they've come round, which is so great.

You WILL get through this xx

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