to think that however mean you are with your own comfort, when you invite guests round you should turn up your heating so that they can remove their outdoor garments with some degree of comfort?

[LittleWhizzingBella]

I bet loads of you are going to tell me there's a credit crunch, times is 'ard etc., but in that case don't invite your friends round to spend the morning freezing their arses off at your place. Turn the bloody heating up, or come round to mine which is what I suggested in the first place, suspecting that I was letting myself in for a morning of freezing discomfort and trying to avoid it by holding the event at mine.

Oh why are the English so bloody inhospitable?

Rant rant rant.

Stands back, waits for excuses condemnation.

LOL I'm coming over all Wuthering Heights.

Have just read Bad Mother's Handbook as well, that's got plenty of northern misery.

Wow, I never really thought of someone not putting on the heating as RUDE. I read somewhere recently that we've all grown too accustomed to full central heating, and expect to wear similar clothes all year round. This year I've actually gone out and bought a few jumpers and cardigans to wear rather than walk around in a t-shirt, like I used to. When I go to my dad's (where hospitality is thrust upon you in a full on, almost intimidating way!) the heating is really oppressive. Someone earlier suggested opening a window, or nipping outside for a breath of cold air, but seriously, wouldn't you be a bit miffed if your guest was so hot they had to escape!

My brother, on the other hand, is a starving artist type, and lives in an old country house with the worst insulation and drafty windows. It's freezing. But I know it's expensive to heat, so I just huddle around the fire, and endure, and remember to bring the woolies. Asking him to blast heat all over the house for me would be rude, I think.

I think we all should try and get used to cooler temperatures, and wearing a few more layers in winter. I certainly wouldn't think it rude of my host to not turn on the heating, I'd just think it a bit unfortunate, and remember to wear warmer clothes.

It's about ensuring your guests are comfortable weebump.

No I wouldn't be offended if my guest went outside every once in a while.

None of my guests ever have though...

my in-laws keep their house like a blast furnace and whinge when here. I can't afford to heat more than one room. Last winter MIL stayed here 2 days with the boys while me and dh took dd to a therapy centre and burned through 2 weeks coal in 2 fucking days. She had both fires going and the central geating on all day and night. The swanned off leaving us with amassive bill.

I wouldn't expect my friends to put their heating on just cos I was going round.

Most of them are on low incomes and I wouldn't expect them to spend all that money on me.

But then it's only been in recent years I've even expected a drink.

But most of them we've been friends since school days and when every one left home we would bring round our own drinks and food.

I'd still take round alcohol if we were drinking or offer food for a party.

YANBU. But then I am a proper southern wuss when it comes to cold.

Enviromentally it must be better not to heat the house?

Our heating is currently broken I am sitting here b/f DS and using his hand to warm my nose (whilst typing one-handed on here!)

IT is RUDE to not at least try and make your guest comfortable, i would'nt visit again if I had to sit there with my coat on and I would say something!

I'm with Bella on this one. I like my study thermometer to read 22c. That is comfortable for MNing in jeans, t-shirt and cardie, socks and ugg style slippers.

I have to share an office with a woman who goes around turning rads off and opening windows while I sit there trying to type in fingerless gloves and a scarf round my nose. [tiny tim emoticon]

And I'm a tough yorkshire lass who was brought up with frost on the inside of my bedroom windows in the winter!

It' obvious that everyone feels the cold/heat differently, but I still say that my neighbour who lived in the 25C house and her dc got a lot more colds/sniffles than mine did. A warm and sometimes humid house is much more a breeding ground for bacteria than a colder one, simply because bugs prefer it warm and humid, and die if it's too cold!

IT is RUDE to not at least try and make your guest comfortable, BUT it is also rude as a guest (and I assume friend) to think that a friend should put the heating on just for your comfort. Believe me we would have the heating on if we could afford to. Maybe I should just become a recluse instead.

LOL you are right.

I have just spent an hour tidying the house after a busy weekend; my DSSs have two friends coming over today and I told them they had to ensure their bedroom/bathroom were tidied, aired and cleaned first. Am just off to inspect