to think that however mean you are with your own comfort, when you invite guests round you should turn up your heating so that they can remove their outdoor garments with some degree of comfort?

[LittleWhizzingBella]

I bet loads of you are going to tell me there's a credit crunch, times is 'ard etc., but in that case don't invite your friends round to spend the morning freezing their arses off at your place. Turn the bloody heating up, or come round to mine which is what I suggested in the first place, suspecting that I was letting myself in for a morning of freezing discomfort and trying to avoid it by holding the event at mine.

Oh why are the English so bloody inhospitable?

Rant rant rant.

Stands back, waits for excuses condemnation.

What do you consider warm enough to take your coat off for out of interest?

We don't have central heating and I use our electric heaters to keep the temp above 16 degrees in the living room (we live in a top floor flat so the neighbours usually help us with this ). 18 degrees is perfect for me but I do worry about visitors freezing and not telling me - every house I go into with central heating seems to be sweltering.

Is there a minimum temperature that is considered hospitable?

Yanbu - very well off friends of ours have amassive freezing cold house. I think it's so boring to just say "put another layer on" I want to feel warm and toasty with a mug of coffee when i go to someone's for a chat!

I do actually have a rule not to attend any house events between September and May except with carefully vetted, heating-correct friends.

But she absolutely insisted we had to be at her's this AM, even though I desperately tried to persuade her to come to mind.

Short of saying, look, I have a policy of not going to other people's houses at this time of year because they're always cold, I had to reluctantly give in. I did wear a thermal vest, a cardigan and one of those long cardigan-cum-coats in preparation and also took my other coat as back-up, but chickened out of wearing that.

nicky

I don't think I'd be visting you over winter.

Oh rubbish, 18 degrees is absolutely fine. Anything between 18-21 is considered fine for babies, so it really can't be considered cold for an adult!

I would say 18 is perfect. Those of us who feel the heat can remove a jumper, those of us who are softies and require tropical temperatures at all times can keep a fleece on.

we honestly don't find it cold, do you really think 18 is vry cold?
We are struggling financially and i don't see why we should cut back all week and they heat the house to 21 which is what he wants one day a week when he visits. Nor do i buy expensive coffee when we have own brand stuff, when i offer him a coffee he asks if we have any decent stuff, no bring your own.

come to mine I mean

Look if someone is so cold that they are wearing their coat in your house, your house is too cold for them.

I put the heating on for friends last week - but I wouldn't for family - this strikes me as odd and I need to perhaps be a little more caring towards my family!

Pmsl!

YANBU

If you invite someone, then as a host you try to make your guests comfortable.

luckylady - I do this.

18 degrees is fine if you are moving around, as you tend to at home.

If you are sitting there not moving (like watching TV, reading or being a guest) then for me, that would most definitely be too cold.

Everyone who says put another jumper on, fine, but what about face (freezing cold nose, my nose is still cold now), feet and hands? Would you really think it's reasonable to expect friends to wear gloves in your house?

Get a balaclava.
COld face - lol!

I think you should have put your coat on so they realised you were cold and given them the chance to change the temp.
If you appear to be fine with the temp, how can they guess you are not comfortable?

Or of course just said something!

(I am sorry. I am in a silly mood this afternoon.)

Well I had a coat cardigan on, over a thermal vest and a cardigan.

And DD put her coat on and whinged about being cold, so she made it pretty obvious!

LOL nicky, DD had a bright red balaclava which she put on!

It's probably more socially acceptable to say 'DD is cold, could you turn up the heating please'!

NO!
lol!

The nose thing is how I judge it's got way too cold. My nose gets cold at 15 degrees.

What temperature would you take your coat off for then? Would 20 degrees be ok?

18 is fine unless you are just sitting around rather than making the cups of tea and being the entertainer. When you are just sat around 18 can feel very cold indeed.

I usually ask my guests if they are warm enough and if they're a bit chilly nudge the thermostat up for a bit.

OK, if she was wearing her balaclava, they really should have picked up on that!

I remember going over the top when my best friend and her son came to stay for a few days. The central heating was on all the time, massive fire in the living room, heaters on upstairs and yet the pair of them still talk about how cold our house was.

I think you get used to the cold eventually.