To be angered by uber middle class people who complain they are short of money...

[Reallytired]

I know someone who has just bought themselves a 600K house. Both parents work and the family have three children and enjoy nice hobbies like sailing, and learning to play the cello and rock climbing. The parents are forever moaning how short of money they are.

However my son has a little friend who is in a family with three children. This family lives in a two bed flat which is cold and mouldy. They rent their flat as they cannot afford to buy even though one parent works full time and the other part time. Yet they never moan about lack of money, but have a positive outlook on life.

I just think that some uber middle class families need to be a bit more thankful for what they have.

'Money doesn't buy you happiness.'

it makes being miserable a lot more comfortable

don't annoyed with them, just feel sorry for them with their negative attitude.
in their eyes the probably do think poor old us.

Yeap I agree with that expat. I would rather be miserable in a warm house than miserable in a cold one.

But I do think a positive outlook is the only way to go. Otherwise you are constantly living your life feeling disgruntled and unhappy with your lot.

well said expat.
in fact, taht phrase has described my life pretty well perfectly till now.

we are all struggling at the moment im sure, some more than others. I have always said to dh, as long as morgageis paid, gas, electric, petrol in the car and foodin our bellies, the other things can wait

everyone has a different experience of life, so it's hard to know.

but seriously, life is too short to not get pleasure from it in your own way, be it a pony (eeeww, just read the thread about the gelding with the smeggy sheath and that should put you off horse-owning for life) or a warm cat instead of a water bottle.

Do you find there's a difference among those of us old enough (!!) to have been homeowners during the last recession??

I think back to the early 90s when interest rates were in double figures regularly and even hit highs of 15%. OK, things like fuel and food were cheaper, but an awful lot of other things weren't - eg household goods, TV, washing machine, phone, clothing etc were comparatively way more expensive.

I know after we had dc1, we really struggled - our mortgage on a tiny home cost us about three quarters of DH's take home pay. I worked too, but after childcare costs there wasn't a lot left. We had to postpone having more kids as with both of us working it would have doubled our childcare costs and we'd have ended up repossessed.

I know things are tough again, but tbh when you look at tax credits, nursery vouchers etc there is WAY more support out there than used to be the case. Maybe it doesnt feel like it if this is your first experience of recession, but believe me there is. I would have given my right arm for tax credits, or indeed any kind of help towards childcare costs. In those days you just paid the whole lot yourself.

TBH can't say I know anyone living in a 600k house that is moaning about how skint they are.

i think it's pointless to compare, find.

i mean, if you want to take it that far, there are plenty of people my father's age and MIL's age who could tell you how easy you had it during the last recession compared to their experiences of the Great Depression and WWII/rationing.

our nextdoor neighbour was a schoolboy in London during the Blitz.

he has some crackin' stories!

but he'd never hold that over anyone's head that people today are just frivolous or should thank their lucky stars because it's pointless.

they weren't there and things are different now.

i live in a house that is probly 600k now. we bought for a hell of a lot less than that. and we are skint.
there. now you know someone.

but i'm not moaning am i?

It's al relative. people in council flats on benefits by rights shouldn't moan because at least they've got a roof over their heads etc etc.

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Well exactly stitch! That's the complexity of it!

Expat - very true, and no doubt some of those OAPs who lived through the Blitz and rationing etc are also now living in homes worth 600k or more!

my auntie's got a handbag her ex h bought her, the price of which could probably put a deposit on a home in the US and plenty of money from a divorce settlement and great taste and a lovely home.

she's terrific fun and great company.

but she also has health problems now because she got HepC from a blood transfusion back in the 70s.

My brother & SIL earn a lot more than we do - and I am happy that he's done so well - but I find I can't summon up much of sympathetic grimace when he says they're finding things financially tough. His 'tough' means hanging on to the car for another year, one less holiday or SIL not buying out Monsoon. Real sacrifices like getting rid of Sky+ would be just too hard though.

Oh I know I'm being petulant, but we will save and be frugal in order to buy presents like last year and this, including for his dcs of course, but he has no such concept or willingness. We got cut from the gift list as one of his first economies.

'Expat - very true, and no doubt some of those OAPs who lived through the Blitz and rationing etc are also now living in homes worth 600k or more! '

some probably do, but a lot also don't have excellent health anymore.

this chap and his wife don't live in a house worth that much.

but if they did, what's it to me? means nothing.

rather hear their stories, tbh. he was an RAF pilot and then a career pilot for BA and she's an artist and you know, you take pleasure where you find it, so why not a dram and a few stories about still having to do your school lessons in an air raid shelter?

bet kids today wouldn't be disciplined to pull that off!

It is all relative. DP earns a nice wage but we got on the property ladder late in life and so have a big mortgage. We dont go out a lot, dont have a car etc We moan like crazy but know that we are lucky and that really its the choices we made that have placed us where we are. Agree though its nicer to have money than not.

Who cares, I mean really. Worry about what you've got not what other people have, I probably moan a bit about money to DH because I feel a bit hard done by but at the end of the day we have almost everything we want.
I've had 5 star holidays and lived in 2 million dollar appartments with views of Sydney harbour with a man I never saw for days at a time and when I did he was high on cocaine, so the grass isn't always greener.

Talk about karma, have just found out my bank has been drained so now I am moaning about having no money - literally.

wtf?! that's awful, TSAP! what happened?

I don;t know, just been to the bank to take money out so we could take dd to stay with her stepmum and it only let is have £30. Have phoned bank and they have said a series of suspicious transactions have come out, they are looking into it and will call me back.

So just your Bank Acount TSAP?

Not a national wer,e in a depression get your money out of any bank and keep it under your matress thing?

No just me but still not nice.

yabvu

just because we have money doesn't mean we do not have problems.

or does it mean just because we have a nice house etc, we are not llowed to moan about anything ever.