to be a bit irked about disabled badge holders using mum and baby spaces

[mousemole]

I am not sure why I am irked because clearly having a disabled badge means you have a need to park near a supermarket. But when all the mum and child spaces are gone, and I am struggligng with baby and toddler, and see a man with a blue badge RUN from his car in the pouring rain to Sainsburys whilst I can't get a space I have to admit to feeling P*ssed off. Oh and I also dont understand why totally able bodied senior citizens feel they have the right to park in them either.
Rant over.

snap 2shoespunk! As a teacher in PMLD school, loads of experience in pushing heavy wheelchairs, so would gladly help, as long as you'll carry my 1 yr old and hold 4yr olds hand. I was agreeing with Bronze that mum and baby spaces could be at back of car park, as a mum of able-bodied kids this would be fine for me. Didn't suggest for 1 mo that disabled spaces should be moved. Maybe you should read my thread before getting sarcastic with me!

Lots of harsh comments on here! Not all 'disabled' people need to park near the supermarket

that is the comment I was commenting on

tsk 'Not all 'disabled' people need to park near the supermarket, nor do all mums.'

Blue Badges are only given when there is a mobility impairment of one form or another so of course they need to be near the store.
I'd abolish M&T places. Mums are so precious nowadays and seem to be unable to walk 5 yards.

YANBU

about what Crush? Disabled people shouldn't use M&T bays?

nmc see we are not allowed to take our burdens out

i have friends who are blue badge holders, have been out with them and seen the dirty looks they get (mainly from the elderly) for parking in disabled spaces - largely i think because they are young & have nice cars - as though you have to be both poor & elderly to be disabled!

also, one of them has been moaned at by supermarket staff previously for parking in a P&T space (when all the disabled spaces were taken, and apart from P&T any other free spaces were too far for her to be able to walk)

my view is that my friend was right to park there, as would any other disabled person on the same situation. and as a non-driver myself i have to say doing a 30-35 minute walk to & from supermarket with children & heavy shopping in the pouring rain is a fair bit more hassle than getting them from one side of the car park to the other

2shoes - I parade my burden round for all to see
And will make an effort to park in M&T from now on - she is 4 so its allowed so ner ner.

Thanks NMC, didn't realise you only got badge for mobility probs, that's fair enough. I apologise for saying not all disabled people need to park near the shop. I assumed all disabled persons got a badge and not all have mobility problems.
I'm not saying abolish disabled spaces, just that sometimes it is difficult getting LO's accross a carpark, hence M&T spaces being provided. I don't think we're being 'precious', in wanting to make a shopping trip easier and safer. When I go shopping with my dh I don't need the space, so don't use it.

it is a wide range though - people with cancer get them I believe or someone with an illness that makes them tired.
I don't think a person would a hearing impairment would get one.
It just isn't that hard getting small children across a car park, especially if you compare it to disability. I had 3 kids under 3 and managed shopping on the bus. It seems everyone wants things ridicuously easy now and cant manage any effort at all. So we end up with parents demanding M&T spaces and getting narked at disabled people. Get a grip.

whats annoying is when someone with their 15 year old kids park in a mother and baby space.

and frankly really enormously fat people who have mobility badges and scooters because they are fat. lose some weight! there are loads of them round here I KID YOU NOT last week at our local outdoor market an ENORMOUS woman in a mobility scooter on oxygen yes on oxygen was shovelling 2 that is 2 different chinese meals from the little chinese stall down her, that is ridiculous really isnt it!?

maybe people with mobility impairments put on weight cos they can't walk?

oh ffs now it's the fat peoples turn to be slagged off.
nice......
I would love to be so fucking perfect

yanbu

YABU - totally. Mother and child places are a luxury. Disabled people need priority parking. People with children - DON'T. I find it quite weird that you think struggling with a baby toddler is anywhere as hard as being disabled.

sigh, yet more ignorance. Because people in wheel chairs get to exercise loads don't they and noone ever has to take medication that makes you put on weight do they? Yes, they must just be greedy and lazy.

and eat and eat and eat and eat and eat and eat

im talking about me there!

I put on a bit of weight this year cos I've been using my wheelchair more and more. Its bloody annoying.
And anyway, why the prejudice against fat people? Its everyday people who appear to be unable to walk across a carpark with a small child.

yes 2shoes all fat people should be taken to gillian mckeiths house and put on a diet!

listen not being mobile means you cant exercise we all know that im just talking about the massive people i see in mobility scooters on oxygen shovelling massive amounts food down them and yes i have seen it with my own eyes... though i dont actually believe that everyone is like that

though on a hungry pmt day i could probably give them a run for there money.

Am I missing something here? Why should someone on oxygen and overweight not be able to have a chinese takeaway?? PErhaps a government enforced diet would be appropriate?

incidentally i am rather large, im no skinny minny ive put on 4 stone in the past 4 years! and that is down to be a lazy arsed cow that eats crap too

yes hercules i think perhaps enforced gastric bands would be the answer or perhaps some sort of electronic tagging system.

There are loads of things in life that aren't necessary but make life a hell f a lot easier. M&T spaces take some hassle out of what can be quite a stressful task. Yes we can manage without them and frequently do. We could also manage without microwaves, cars, mobile phones... but why would we when they make jobs easier. I'm not saying replace disabled spaces with M&T spaces, can't we have both? and as was suggested earlier they can be anywhere so long as there's a path or something to get to the store. It's not about distance for mums but safety. ok it's not impossible to hold a childs hand and push a trolley (even 1 with dodgy wheels) across a car park, but it can be made easier.

but people have complained about if they were at the other end of the carpark. Cos they'd have to walk. It seems like some people's car parks resemble Mogadishu and have acid rain that melts their children.