to wish that Dirty Dancing wasn't about a girl who "grows up" by stealing money from her father to pay for her friend's back-street abortion?

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... at least that's the way I remember it

SUCH a shame though because it's such a FAB film, and DD (5) is obsessed by the soundtrack - but I can't really put the soundtrack in CONTEXT for her for about 10 years...

I watched it recently with dd Age 4. I was fairly at the lyrics, some of which quoted above and the meaning lost on me first time around!

It was great. It pisses all over High School Ripoff.

Ah yes but he changed his looks and we knew that a SAD ENDING was coming because he Made Himself Square And Virginal

She changed her looks and we knew it was a Happy Ending because she had to be sewn into her trousers

LOL MP!

If I had to be sewn into my trousers there would have to a lot of thread and I suspect a very unhappy ending.

isn't Dirty Danxing about the sountrack and the dancing.

and pretty woman about fucking richard gere?

dont over complicate things now

Lol, MP.
Then along comes Grease 2 and the square has to hide under a helmet and not tell her that the geek doing her homework is actually Mr.Smartypants doing her homework with her.

spicemonster and blondilocks - cant beleive you didnt like DD

was a fab film - saw the musical last year and it was amazing

all were singing in the asiles - and all shouted out and cheered with the watermelon and no one puts baby in the corner when said

I did like Grease & Pretty Woman.

Pretty Woman is the opera and the piano and the races.

Dirty Dancing is the waterfall, the hotel, the room and the last dance.

Grease is the flying car at the end.(WTF?)

lol VS dont worry. i could probably recite PW word for word. me and my flatemate bought the video once and the colour 'ran out' after a few weeks i now have it on dvd!

should i be worried i used to watch it over and over at my grans house aged about 9

I like Grease. Maybe I needed to see DD when I was young. I never have liked romantic films though - I don't like officer and a gentlemen or when harry met sally. I'd much rather watch star wars

greece was good but no 2 with michelle p and maxwell c was crap

Pretty Woman is not Cinderella (and even if it were, is that romantic?).

Let's face it, Los Angeles street walkers do not look like Julia Roberts, and if a businessman of that league were to pick one up, God alone knows what he would intend to do with her - it wouldn't be fucking in the Beverley Wilshire and it wouldn't be flying her to New York to watch opera. She'd probably be dead in a skip next morning.

I really really hate that film.

The thing that strikes me about Pretty Woman is that one of the first things that happens is that a prostitute is found dead - and yet the film still manages to present the life as an ok one! Not as good as being Mrs Richard Gere - but Julia's friend looks pretty healthy etc. Such a false and dangerous message. The power dynamics make feel very uncomfortable - although I do love the shopping sequence

I love DD, I think the dancing is amazing in it. I was really into dancing as a teen so it made me even more keen on it. Pretty woman was good too imo, taken at face value and not read into too much. Same with Grease, when I first watched it as a teen I thought it was a fun film and then nostalgia plays a big part when you re-watch them.

Wikipedia on Dirty Dancing:

"Plot analysis: Dirty Dancing has been described as a coming-of-age tale showing the passage from adolescence to adulthood, in a classic hero's journey format similar to Homer's Odyssey. The hero, Baby, is an innocent who receives a call to adventure from a gatekeeper ? one of the camp staff asking her in to the party ? who invites her to cross a bridge (symbolically significant as it links different realms) and Baby passes into an unfamiliar world (the resort's staff and their more sensual dancing). Baby then proceeds through tests and trials (dancing lessons, taking the lead in dealing with Penny's abortion, preparing for and completing the performance at the Sheldrake, standing up for Johnny) to achieve personal growth, "knowledge acquired through personal experience". She is rewarded for her achievements, by sexual union with Johnny. At the end of the film she undergoes the supreme ordeal (dancing in front of her parents and the audience including the climactic lift), which she conquers, and is rewarded by being raised, both literally into the air and figuratively into divinity, demonstrating that the hero has achieved a new higher state of being, and has been permanently changed by the journey."

Dirty Dancing = Homer's Odyssey? Now there's an example of reading too much.

Bloody hell mp - that ranks right up there with the dodgy estate agent prose on another thread. Was the writer of that an estate agent?

She diesn't steal the money, does she??.

she asks for it IIRC but doesn't say what its for.

thats not exactly stealing....

More like fraud, I guess.

Yes ladytop is right - she asks her dad for the money and doesn't say what it's for. But he finds out when the dodgy abortion goes wrong (cos he's a doctor - he saves her live).

I've never liked dirty dancing. But ilove grease - when I was a kid my 15 year old babysitter used to bring the video round and let us wwatch it - she made us promise not to tell our mum

s'not fraud either.
fruad would be saying it sfor x and doing y.

she doesn't say what its for.

I'lll not have any of you diss dirty dancing....

In fact she tells him she needs it for a very good reason, and that she cannot tell him why, he trusts her and gives it to her. He is understandably angry when he finds out what it is for (not only is abortion illegal at the time, but he is the one who has to sort out the results of the dodgy illegal abortion).

yabu
It is a love story. a brilliant film and so not for a 5 year old anyway