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To find this cashing in disgusting?

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BitOfFun · 16/09/2008 12:32

I am at work in the bookshop at the moment and we have just had a delivery of an auto-biography of JADE GOODY ffs, complete with fears about losing her hair etc. It seems to have been ghostwritten by some hack from Heat magazine, but even so, wouldn't you want to spend time quietly with your family and concentrate on getting well after a cancer diagnosis? All the sleb mags are full of her "exclusive" interviews and pics though, and it seems like one huge money-making opportunity. What is this - well you've seen my kebab, now pay to read about my internal organs ???? I think it's in very poor taste, AIBU?

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zookeeper · 16/09/2008 17:22

If she wants to write a book (or at least have someone ghost write it for her)and people want to buy it I don't see a problem with it

loobeylou · 16/09/2008 17:25

expat, you don't know me yet you think its ok to call me "ignorant and judgemental and narrow minded" based on a few hurriedly typed lines, that you've chosen to interpret and read things into that I did not say??

I did not and would never say Jade deserved what she has had to go through. I am not judging her or saying lets all try guessing how she contracted this disease, Just that her bringing some publicity to the disease and making people aware of the FACTS about how one CAN minimise risk, note I did not say prevent oneslf ever getting it...and highlighting the screening programme and its importance in early detection , would surely be a good thing?

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expatinscotland · 16/09/2008 17:33

'expat, you don't know me yet you think its ok to call me "ignorant and judgemental and narrow minded" based on a few hurriedly typed lines, that you've chosen to interpret and read things into that I did not say??'

you don't know Jade, either, and you think she should be used as a poster child to lecture others about the decisions they make about their bodies which are none of your business and yet you have the audacity to say i'm the one who's judgemental?

interpret and read things into what you wrote indeed.

you implied that Jade's condition should be used to deter people from having many sexual partners.

that assumes that is the cause of her cervical cancer, when in fact if you were well-informed about HPV and its role in cervical cancer you'd know that you can have sex with one person and get cancer like hers.

and that she might not even have gotten it from HPV at all.

so yeah, from what you wrote, it comes across as judgmental, ignorant and narrow-minded.

Guadalupe · 16/09/2008 17:38

Having had a hysterectomy in May for a rare aggresive type of cervical cancer I find a few posts quite upsetting really.

It is upsetting to think that some will presume promiscuity, failure to use protection, having sex at a young age and not attending smear tests. I am guilty of none of those things yet it appears some will think my cancer was preventable.

mabanana · 16/09/2008 17:38

I agree. If Jade having cervical cancer and publicising it makes women more aware of the disease and how to prevent themselves from getting it (smoking, unprotected sex) and of the value of screening later on, then I think that is a good thing. Teenagers do pay more attention to health messages when they seem real, not merely theorectical and it is completely reasonable to use big stories in the classroom. They do feel invincible.
I think from the evidence, delaying screening was a reasonable decision too. Treatment for cell abnormalities can have lifelong consequences. If those cell abnormalities are a normal part of the developing cervix, or are abnormal but would revert to normality in time, then offering treatment would be pointless at best, and harmful at worst.

mabanana · 16/09/2008 17:41

My post wasn't in response to yours Guadelupe btw. I'm sorry you had this horrible illness. And of course, anyone can develop cervical cancer. I should have said 'minimise their risk' not 'prevent themselves from getting it'. But it is true that certain things do increase your risk, and certain things can help prevent cancer developing, such as regular smears or the new vaccine. And sometimes people - especially young people - need to have the risk made real for them to take any notice. Smoking rates in young women are shockingly high, I think.

expatinscotland · 16/09/2008 17:44

Newsflash:

YOU CAN CONTRACT HPV WHILST HAVING PROTECTED SEX.

YOU CAN EVEN GET CERVICAL CANCER WITHOUT HAVING HPV AT ALL!

YOU CAN GET HPV AT ANY AGE AND FROM ANY PARTNER - EVEN JUST ONE WHO YOU WAITED TO MARRY BEFORE HAVING SEX.

To assume otherwise is just plain ignorant.

Newsflash:

Smear tests are the most effective way to detect cervical cell abnormalities no matter if they are from HPV or not.

StewiesMom · 16/09/2008 17:45

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mabanana · 16/09/2008 17:53

Yes, but the more partners you have unprotected sex with, the higher your risk of contracting HPV. Multiple infections raise your risk further. Smoking doubles your risk of cervical cancer. You can develop cervical cancer without having HPV but it is much, much less likely.
information from Cancer Research on risks and causes of cervical cancer

expatinscotland · 16/09/2008 17:54

yeah, so what, mabanana? why should Jade be used as a poster child for this when no one even knows how many partners she's had, as if it's anyone's business?

daftpunk · 16/09/2008 17:54

it's just the way things are now...alot of people' s dying wish seems to be that their partner/son/daughter/ becomes a contestant on the Xfactor.

CoteDAzur · 16/09/2008 17:56

"If the risk was so obvious then surely one of her hospital doctors should have spotted it"

Oh fgs. It WAS spotted. She WAS sent not one, but SEVERAL letters, saying she needed treatment for precancerous cells.

What can the best doctor in the world possibly do if the patient doesn't open these letters because they might be bad news?

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expatinscotland · 16/09/2008 17:59

'expat, if a celebrity were going through a similar situation, but it were lung cancer, would it not be appropriate to discuss all the possible contributing factors?'

no, no it wouldn't. if YOU got cancer, would you like to be used as a warning vehicle or an example without your consent just because you're you?

daftpunk · 16/09/2008 17:59

but if her book helps more women get tested..then great imo.

mabanana · 16/09/2008 18:00

Jade is a high profile person who has had cervical cancer. Plenty of people who have had illnesses or who have had, say, children born with conditions such as Downs Syndrome, do choose to use their fame to promote greater awareness of that condition. Jade may well choose to do the same, and why not? And of course it is valid in a classroom to talk about a very high profile story in the news in order to make an otherwise dry topic come alive for pupils. I imagine that if a teacher were to introduce the topic of cervical cancer in a lesson the pupils would automatically talk about Jade anyway. I have heard lots of people say that Kylie's experience of breast cancer has raised awareness and made women more likely to go to their GP if they find a lump. Is that also terrible? There are health messages around cervical cancer that young women are ignoring. More young women are missing smears, more young women are smoking. If they see someone who is young who has the cancer it is more real to them.

Guadalupe · 16/09/2008 18:00

Yes, smear tests are so vital and it is shocking how many women don't attend theirs. I always had mine and had prompt treatment with an abnormal result but still, I got a type that can go undetected by smears for a while. If I had missed any out that could have been a disaster for me.

All of my friends have booked theirs, particularly ones that had got behind with them. One friend aged 34 has never had one. I find that amazing.

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CoteDAzur · 16/09/2008 18:03

Slouchy - I am sorry to hear about your mum. "Shit genes" is a terrible thing - I have those myself. "Things were still not detected until it was far too late" is also unfortunately quite common

Your emotions on the subject may be preventing you from seeing this, but I haven't said anything about "shit genes" or "things detected too late".

My comment about Jade Goody's inexcusable stupidity is re her receiving multiple letters from hospital saying she needed treatment for precancerous cells, And Still Doing Nothing About It.

Sorry if this sounds offensive to you, although it certainly wasn't your mother's case so I can't see why it would.

Guadalupe · 16/09/2008 18:09

I have to say I can't understand ignoring letters and not having treatments.

I know people are afraid and it makes them act strange and want to hide away from it but I can't understand it. I couldn't get there quick enough and had to pester to be seen sooner.

CoteDAzur · 16/09/2008 18:12

That is also what I did, Guadalupe. I didn't sleep nor think anything else until I saw doctor the following day and asked to be scheduled for operation at earliest possibility.

mabanana · 16/09/2008 18:12

From what I'd read she had found previous treatment very painful and upsetting and also ineffective. I suppose if this story is accurate, she was probably urying her head in the sand, as many, many people do, out of fear.